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McNerney's Destruction Continues: His Obamacare Vote May Help to Eliminate Health Insurance for 1.2 Million McDonald's Employees

Original post made by StopMcNerneysDestruction, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Sep 30, 2010

More evidence of McNerney's destruction... Even if McDonald's receives a reprieve by Obama, the potential alone for the loss of coverage speaks volumes.

More info on McDonald's situation >>> Web Link

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Posted by StopMcNerneysDestruction
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:09 am

Correction:
1.2 million people with these type of health insurance plans who may lose coverage of which 30,000 are McDonald's employees.


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Posted by MoreMisInformation
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:25 am

Wow more misinformation from the Harmer investment banker's club. The article in the Dallas paper says, "McDonalds this morning turns around and says - 'False story! Not true; we're not considering dropping coverage." It is a confusing and poorly written news article at best.

Is this what we can expect from Harmer if elected? Their political cronies (another laid off investment banker) posting Dallas newspaper and barely newsworthy junk journalism in our local forums. Soon we'll be living in fantasyland (I wonder if Harmer will start taking over all the local news media...I am sure he'll be able to get money from the DC lobbyists and these laid off investment bankers are cheap). I guess we'll eventually have to rename the Tri-Valley area, Harmerville....


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Posted by StopMcNerneysDestruction
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:53 am

Dear More...
So, you criticize the SF Examiner as misinformation? I suppose you also criticize the Wall St. Journal as bogus info also...

WSJ article >>> Web Link

If the news about this has changed since the time of posting, that is for the reader to research. However, as mentioned, the fact ALONE that McD was considering this should be a huge indicator to America what Obamacare will do.


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Posted by MoreMisInformation
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 12:20 pm

Obviously the Dallas article came out after the WSJ article. The reporter at the Dallas paper was reporting that McDonald's (not part of a Democratic Conspiracy) said the report was wrong so what is the point...are we reporting that someone at McDonald's in the HR department wrote a memo and then realized that they made a mistake. And then this is posted in a local forum as a headline! Soon we will be reporting that someone thought that someone else thought that maybe if...
I am sure you are busy doing other things so please only post headlines that are significant and interesting to the majority of folks in Pleasanton or the Tri-Valley area(and a squirrel getting hit on Foothill is more significant than this, by the way that is true). This is what responsible neighbors do. Thank you for your courtesy.


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Posted by radical
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm

i would like to request that miss information please stop replying to articles with distortions and lies

mcdonalds made a statement, there is no article in a Dallas paper reporting that McDonald's said the report was wrong.

the McDonalds statement carefully said "Media reports stating that we plan to drop health care coverage for our employees are completely false" which is something quite different from seeking a waiver from Obamacare regs in order to continue benefits for 29000 employees

even if the original headline saying 1.2 million mcdonalds employees is incorrect it doesnt change the fact that yet another large corporation is telling the federal government that this vast new taxation and regulation scheme being imposed on Americans, against our will, is hurting businesses and hurting individual Americans, like the 29000 who work for McDonalds

Obama Pelosi and Reid's lies are being exposed. They will pay at the ballot box in november


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Posted by MissInformation
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 2:23 pm

Dear Radical,

You proved my point. Thank you.

You keep explaining something something that you yourself do not understand.

As for falsely accusing me of distortions and lies, all I did was cut and pasted from the Dallas article.

Please prove your point with facts rather than just making statements based on your gut feeling. I would like to see it.

And also stop taking over our local forum for your eccentric and biased viewpoints....that are based on emotion with zero substance.

Otherwise the moderates and real (traditional) conservatives in our community will start responding in kind.

Shame on you!


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Posted by radical
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm

i understand perfectly well that you distorted the statement from mcdonalds about the facts , and you quoted an article from a dallas paper, adding that an anonymous poster here was part of the harmer campaign to try another harmer smear, a lie

if you understood the article you would understand that the Wall Street Journal emerged with these facts and they have seen the letter that mcdonalds sent to the feds, if you read and understood the refutation of the WSJ report from the McD's exec you would see that the carefully worded statement doesn't deny that they wrote the letter seeking to escape from requirements of Obama's healthcare law

corporations who have dared to publicly oppose this law have been vilified in the press and called into congressional hearings by Waxman and his buddies, mcdonalds in obviously trying to work through channels and avoid getting pilloried for this

o, dear friend--i understand these issues all too well. it is you who obviously failed to grasp what is going on here. i would love for a person of some intelligence to try and respond, all i get all whining screaming liberal babies who are afraid that some of the government goodies might be taken away after november


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Sep 30, 2010 at 5:41 pm

An update from the WSJ. (Web Link)
Seems the feds didn't understand the impact of ObamaCare:
"White House officials said they have sought to ensure that insurance coverage for employees isn't disrupted as a result of the law. Already federal regulators have approved dozens of waiver requests—including one from McDonald's—that their insurers be relieved from having to meet a new $750,000 minimum cap on annual benefit payouts."
I guess they really did have to pass the bill to know what was in it.


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Posted by MissInformation
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 9:23 pm

If you are looking for perfect government you will never find it because it is built on compromise and evolves to meet changing needs. Social Security has changed dramatically since it was first created. Yet being a coward and not trying to fix the run away train of health care costs is and was the right thing to do. Eventually every citizen will be covered and we won't have to worry about catastrophic illness leaving us poor and destitute.
There are some of those among us who were born without the ability to hear or blind. Those that develop cancer or alzheimer's disease. And if they lose their jobs and lose their healthcare?
And now there is talk of eliminating Medicare and Social Security by the far right.


Republican/Libertarian Dr. Rand Paul saying: "The real answer to Medicare would be a $2,000 deductible."

Republican/Libertarian Sharron Angle for opposing Social Security and Medicare, and saying that people collecting Social Security are taking welfare.

So remember for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for you.


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Posted by Paulette
a resident of Val Vista
on Oct 1, 2010 at 1:27 pm

All of these people supporting candidates like Harmer (Teabagger types who claim they will lower taxes) are so brainwashed reading their rightwing literature and listening to talkradio or Fox News that they don't know the truth. All those forms of media are funded by big business. The real teaparty agenda is to lower taxes on the wealthy. Period. Obama is already lowering taxes on everyone who makes less than $250,000 a year. Harmer and people of his ilk are just "yesmen or yeswomen" for the corporations. They do not support small business at all. The Democrats, without any help from the Republicans just passed a bill that helps small businesses. But, the talk shows don't tell you about that. They don't want you to know. They are capitalizing on your anger and they've got you believing that you are part of this wonderful populist movement. If only you would put that kind of energy into a movement that would actually help you. All of these teabaggers will kick you to the curb, take your tax money and give it to their friends on Wall St. You watch! You are all shooting yourselves in the foot and your kids are going to pay for your inability to do your homework.


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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Oct 1, 2010 at 1:42 pm

jimf01 is a registered user.

paulet - your pathetic insults and jabbering aside, you raise the point that Democrats have passed a bill that helps small businesses. I have done a bit of research on this bill, what I found found is well summed up by this statement from a small business manufacturers

Web Link

According to a new report issued last week by the Small Business Administration, the annual cost of federal regulations was more than $1.75 trillion in 2008, the latest data.

Small businesses face an annual regulatory cost of $10,585 per employee, which is 36 percent higher than for large firms. Of most concern to SOCMA, however, is the fact that the costs are significantly pronounced within the manufacturing sector. According to SBA's report, the regulatory cost per employee for small manufacturers is 125 percent higher than in large firms

the SBA report is here Web Link

Now this report has nothing to do with right wing talk, it is information from the SBA and businesses and says that the government is, in effect, lending a hand on the one side with a small bit of tax relief, but harming small businesses in many other ways for a net negative effect.


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Posted by StopMcNerneysDestruction
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2010 at 1:55 pm

Paulette,
I don't mean to criticize you personally. However you are being fooled by Congressional Democrats that they attempt to help small business. On the contrary, they are attempting to squeeze the life blood out of them.

Take Obamacare, for example. If you Google "Obamacare, 1099s" you will find many articles explaining how Obamacare will be even more destructive to businesses and jobs beyond initial estimates. While many of the articles are on conservative sites (and therefore subject to criticisms that "they're just biased"), I've selected one which ordinarily has a liberal bias.

From the liberal Bangor paper >>> Web Link

How do you feel about the impact of Obamacare on jobs now?


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Posted by EnronVictim
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 2, 2010 at 9:44 pm

Paulette,

No use to talking to some folks. They switch topics quickly just like a mortgage salesman. Privatize social security, medicare and you will soon see lots of commercials on TV....at least until the next meltdown. Then Harmer and his kind will find it easier to sit in the Bahamas rather than be bothered with all those folks who supported him...counting his cash (Bernie Madoff excluded). (Actually Harmer was on unemployment after getting laid off from JPMorgan).

Now if you google "Tea Party money" you'll get another surprise. The Tea Party isn't grass roots at all...it's a bunch of folks that like to take free bus rides paid for by health insurance companies that will make up any stories to confuse everyone.

Does anyone remember how long it took the Republican administration (GW Bush) to get body armor to our soldiers in Iraq? Was it two or three years or longer? I wonder how many American teenagers and young adults died waiting? The truth is good government is created by people who believe in government, not people who spend most of their time thinking it is a bother (and trying to find ways to make ineffectual).

Does anyone in the Tea Party have any statistics on that (years to get body armor)?


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