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AVHS kids ran half mile this afternoon

Original post made by Paul, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Sep 29, 2010

Wasn't it a 100* today? Doesn't seem healthy to have them run in this heat.

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 29, 2010 at 4:34 pm

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Having grown up here and running around in similar hot days, I don't see much of a problem. It just requires closer oversight and preparation (drinking water!) to prevent issues like heat exhaustion. Now if it were hot _and_ humid out, then it would definitely be an issue.


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Posted by quit whining
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2010 at 5:23 pm

Get real! The Kona Ironman Triathlon is held even when the temp is 85 plus with nearly the same humidity. Half a mile??? Geez, get a life. The pampered kids probably had their mommies call to complain in between mani/pedis and the botox treatments.


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Posted by Devon
a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Sep 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm

*rolling my eyes*


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Posted by Greg
a resident of another community
on Sep 29, 2010 at 8:46 pm

If this was more than 30 minutes of intense exercise in that heat, perhaps there is some risk. However, it was only 1/2 mile which is approximately 5-6 minutes for a casual jogging pace. As long as water was accessible before and after, I feel it was far healthier than remaining idle.


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Posted by walker
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2010 at 9:09 pm

I was at the sports park, hundreds of kids playing soccer and football- in full pads as their parents sat and watched.

Are you trying to place blame on the schools? Doesnt seem to affect the after school activities.


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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Sep 29, 2010 at 9:23 pm

If our kid's cannot run in this heat, God forbid... Save us from the the foreign hordes who can!


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Posted by Concerned resident
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:30 pm

Students in marching band, football, baseball, track, cross country, etc. spend hours out in practices in similar weather. They get regular water breaks, their workouts are paced, they are monitored, etc. Half a mile is nothing.


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Posted by Curious
a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 30, 2010 at 9:32 am

Wow, seven reasonable comments on the P-town forums. Hell must have frozen over.


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Posted by Rose
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:58 am

I've noticed the marching bands stand in direct sun for long periods. I saw one kid with a hat with a neck flap. I'd be concerned about skin cancer.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:13 am

Am I trying to place blame on the school? I don't understand that question in this context. "Place blame"??


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Posted by OutsideLookingIn
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:40 am

Should have made them run a Mile... The fatties would have benefitted from the exercise!


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Lydiksen Elementary School
on Sep 30, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Everyone here should do their research on exercising on Spare the Air Days (particularly peak poor air quality times during the day). There have been some serious consequences, particularly to children with allergies/asthma, but anyone can be miserable and develop heat stroke while exercising on hot days. If our schools have indoor gyms, why don't the PE teachers just have the kids do an indoor sport on those days?

If you do not want your child to do PE due to poor air quality, discuss it with your child's physician. If the physician agrees, he/she can write a note to excuse the child on Spare The Air days if he/she agrees and then your child should have to do something else to earn credit for the day. People with asthma and allergies often have more problems exercising outdoors on these days.

My personal opinion is that a smart school will have PE indoors. Why spend money on school gyms if you don't plan to use them in extreme weather? Also, some schools in the valley actually have flags that indicate predicted air quality and they do make accomodatations. Everyone here cares more about "state standards" than common sense. Some day I hope common sense will prevail and "state standards" for PE will come up with a better plan that takes everyone's health into consideration.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Lydiksen Elementary School
on Sep 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm

In case you don't want to research:

What are the health effects of air pollution and who is affected?
Many residents experience some kind of air pollution-related symptoms such as watery eyes, coughing or wheezing. Even for healthy people, polluted air can cause respiratory irritation or breathing difficulties during exercise or outdoor activities. Your actual risk depends on your current health status, the pollutant type and concentration, and the length of exposure to polluted air.

The people most susceptible to severe health problems from air pollution are:

Individuals with heart or lung disease
Individuals with respiratory problems such as asthma or emphysema
Pregnant women
Outdoor workers
Children under age 14 whose lungs are still developing
Elderly residents whose immune systems are weaker
Athletes who exercise vigorously outdoors
High air pollution levels can cause immediate health problems, such as:

Aggravated cardiovascular and respiratory illness
Added stress to heart and lungs causing them to work harder to supply the body with oxygen
Damaged cells in the respiratory system
Damage to deep portions of the lungs, even after symptoms such as coughing or a sore throat disappear
Wheezing, chest pain, dry throat, headache or nausea
Increased reactivity to allergens and particles
Eye irritation
Reduced resistance to infection, increased fatigue, or weakened athletic performance
Long-term exposure to polluted air can have permanent health effects, including:


Accelerated aging of the lungs and loss of lung capacity
Decreased lung function
Development of diseases such as asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, and possibly cancer

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Is it safe to do vigorous exercise on a Spare the Air day?
On Spare the Air days, it is usually safest to exercise in the morning because ground-level ozone doesn't build up to unhealthy levels until the afternoon.


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Posted by Stephen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 2:22 pm

Thank you for going to the trouble to cite that information. Common sense would dictate that students not run outside on Spare the Air days in the afternoon. Students with asthma and other sensitivities may not have proactive parents who obtain a doctor's note, or they may fear the embarrassment of going to P.E. and explaining to other kids why they're not running outside. (They will be made to go to P.E. even if they have a doctor's note.)


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Posted by A little insight
a resident of Avila
on Sep 30, 2010 at 2:42 pm

Doesn't this give you a little insight into what schools/teachers deal with on a daily basis? Years ago, teenagers were expected to work the fields in horrific weather conditions. Their parents would not complain because they were the ones who expected their children to work.

If your child has a medical condition, that's one thing. But if not, stop making excuses. There is a reason why our country is so obese.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Lydiksen Elementary School
on Sep 30, 2010 at 5:39 pm

@ little insight,

Just because someone did something a long time ago, does not make it a good decision. I am happy for the advances we have made and for improvements made because we know more now than we used to. I do consider myself a good parent who is willing to advocate for the health of my child when necessary. I don't care if it becomes "something schools/teachers have to deal with on a daily basis". Tough luck! We have kids with all kinds of medical problems, special needs, etc. and someone has to advocate for these children instead of implying they have unreasonable parents.

If you read the info above from Spare The Air Organization itself, any children under 14 are most suseptible to having difficulty with poor air quality (we now know their lungs are still developing), and then you have the kids who have respiratory issues.

Do you or anyone else have an answer for why we do not use the indoor school gyms on hot days? Thankfully there are some PE teachers with common sense who understand parent's concerns.

Yes, our kids need exercise, but the fit ones should not have to workout like horses for the benefit of the obese ones either. Also, I believe the poor food choices and excessive portions are largely to blame.


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Posted by A little insight
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 7:20 pm

Well for one thing, many of the indoor gyms do not have air conditioning. In the afternoon it gets up to 105 degrees in the gym. Much better to be outside where there is a breeze.

As for poor food choices and excessive portions, blame the parents. PUSD follows very strict guidelines and no meal is sold that is over 400 calories.

I like your idea about only the fit ones working out like horses. Lets separate them into two groups and have the obese kids work out and the fit kids do something easier. I'm sure there wouldn't be any parent complaints on that one.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Lydiksen Elementary School
on Sep 30, 2010 at 8:08 pm

To A Little Insight and others,

I had no idea that our school gyms are not air conditioned (that is a shame because it must be miserable in those gyms when they are full of people!). At least the gyms are covered/shade/reduced sun exposure on hot days. I think PE should also involve lectures on sportsmanship, strategy, etc. and that they should be learning the rules of different sports, even perhaps a little sports history, which could be taught on those excessive weather days. I think they should try yoga and stretching to mix it up with the cardio days too. These are all good hot weather options. I think that making kids run on hot days is not necessary. We do have plenty of mild days where all kids could run.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 30, 2010 at 8:16 pm

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Hrm... big gym, large HVAC units, lots of power, power generation contributes to smog... Oh the irony! Do wind turbines or solar power on top of gyms provide enough energy for HVAC units to cool down large gym spaces?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 30, 2010 at 8:16 pm

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P.S., Spare the Air days can occur on cold days too.


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Posted by Lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2010 at 10:37 am

There is no policy that AVHS follows regarding outdoor temperature and outdoor physical activites during P.E. It up to the discretion of the P.E. Teachers.


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