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Oak Grove developers sue Pleasanton to force housing project OK

Original post made on Aug 16, 2010

In a move that could impact voter turnout and preferences in the Nov. 2 mayoral and City Council election in Pleasanton, landowners of 562 acres in the city's southeast hills are asking the Alameda County Superior Court to rule that they can proceed with plans to develop 51 large lots on a part of their property for custom homes.

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Comments (19)

Posted by BigSurprise, a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Aug 16, 2010 at 4:50 pm

What a surprise! The people who actually own the land ("Our Hills") wants to decide what to do with their own property. Great now we the taxpayers can pay for a legal battle. Here is the deal nimbys, they are not "your" hills, they belong to the Lins. I don't know who didn't see this coming except all the people in this town with their heads up their behinds.

Posted by Arroyo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 16, 2010 at 9:14 pm

I remember when Arafat was offered the best deal the Palestinians could ever hope for, only to have it turned down by the militants. I suspect the nimbys of P-Town may one day regret that they did not accept the generous offer presented to them last year by the Lin family. I personally hope the Lins win big..!!

Posted by Wiley Smith, a resident of Jensen Tract
on Aug 17, 2010 at 6:36 am

Oh Great! Ms. Coupon Lady, Angry Kay Ayala, and her co horts, are going to cost the city millions in legal fees. This lady and her minions are just angry, old, disgruntled, Tea Party activists. Cindy Mac, also known as "minnie kay" will be the next stooge trounced in the Fall. Kathy Brown? Busy body, no personality, angry GOP er. She will lose like the rest.

Posted by Not if, but how much, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 17, 2010 at 9:08 am

This is now a no win situation for Pleasanton. The City will likely pay millions we don't have to settle out of court. This is all do to the misguided and selfish leadership of Kay Ayala and Karla Brown.

I think the city should file a lawsuit against them individually for the costs it will incur. Unfortunately there is no law against what they have done. Talk about penny rich and pound foolish.

Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 17, 2010 at 1:03 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

What would cost more, buying the land now or paying legal fees?

Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 17, 2010 at 1:04 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

City Council candidate Karla Brown should make a statement on this issue. And Fred Watson. The others would be unable to make statements due to their current positions on Council.

Posted by Robert, a resident of Amador Estates
on Aug 18, 2010 at 8:34 am

I agree with Stacy. Where is Karla Brown on this issue? She started this whole mess and now she wants in on the council. When can we hear from you, Karla?

Posted by Patriot, a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Aug 18, 2010 at 9:48 am

I too hope the Lins win this one--they have been extremely kind to the City of Pleasanton--they should not have lost that recent vote--how great it would have been for ALL of Pleasanton. It is sad that Kay was so negatively involved in this issue and my mind says that Karla's positions would mirror Kay's. Also Cindy it truly saddens me that you have been so down on this great project too. I will say this that you have served the community well on the School Board and the Council--I feel that it is time for you to retire from your public service and enjoy your grandchildren, etc. This used to be called the "City of Planned Progress" -- it sure hasn't been that lately. I hope that this issue can be resolved so that the City and the Lins can both benefit. I hope that it doesn't cost the taxpayers of Pleasanton and the City of Pleasanton tons of money in this down economic cycle.

Posted by Fed Up Tax Payer, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:07 am

This mess was caused by Kay Ayala and Karla Brown who failed to challenge the Lin's project properly. If Kay and Karla will agree up front to be 100% responsible for all legal fees and court costs which the City becomes obligated to pay, then the City should fight the Lin's lawsuit. If Kay and Karla are not willing to put their money where their mouths have been for so many months now, then the City should do nothing. There is no way that us taxpayers should pay a penny more for this mess. Furthter, the City should seek to recover its cost of the meaningless Lin referendum from Kay and Karla.

Posted by pleasanton hiker, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:27 am

@Stacy, could Pleasanton buy the land, or could there be some sort of conservancy set up to buy the land, develop a little bit of it to off set some of the coast of the purchase and set then rest aside for open space?....kind of like the original deal.

Posted by pleasanton hiker, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:31 am

I am not a frequent poster....should read "but the land, develop a little bit of it to offset the some of the cost of the purchase and then set the rest aside for open space"

Posted by sickofit, a resident of Amador Estates
on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:49 am

If the referendum was 'meaningless' and the development agreement binding, then why did the Lins spend 650K to promote their position during the 'D' campaign? Come on folks, stop drinking the cool-aid. If the Lins really believed that the development agreement was binding and the referendum didn't matter, why did they spend that kind of money? Why not just let the referendum take place and then they can file their lawsuit. This is just another maneuver by the Lins and their attorneys to try and intimidate the city and the citizens.

Posted by wise, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Aug 18, 2010 at 11:01 am

I too hope the LINS WIN THE CASE. We could have had a golf course years ago, we could have had a nice development, BUT NOW WE HAVE A LAW SUIT. Its time we let some development in. WE OUR STILL WAITING FOR THE OPENING OF ISABEL, TO HELP TRAFIC.

Posted by Mr. Geeneeyus, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 11:27 am

Questions/comments for the peanut gallery.

A) I thought the GOP'ers,"tea party activists" & their like minded folks were both pro-property rights & would typically be against most forms of government intervention with said policies. If so then the Karla Brown's, "Minnie Kay's" & so forth could hardly be described as any form of conservative by any stretch of the imagination & therefore are simply NIMBY-RINO's, IMHO. (sorry for the acronym blitz)

B) If there were to be a purchase offer to the Lin's it would probably have to include not only the fair market value of the land itself but the value based upon it's value IF it were fully developed. That could be a sum that would likely run in the 100's of million $$$.

C) Doesn't Steve Brozosky, one of the architects of the whole anti-ridgeline movement just happen to live on one of the highest elevations in S.E. Pleasanton, on an exposed ridgeline & on a street named something very similar to his last name who also just happens to own his own little tract of undeveloped ridgeline property too?

Strange bedfellows my friends, strange & ironic indeed.

Posted by Uncle George, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 11:45 am

I can't believe the number of people that are posting here that appear to be "let's turn the Tri-Valley into Los Angeles" nut jobs. The majority of Pleasanton voters have said time and again that they don't want the hills developed. Yet, there is a vocal group that seems like they are not going to be happy until every square foot of the Tri-Valley is concrete and asphalt, and our hills look like the hills in Los Angeles, Silicon Valley, Hayward and Berkeley.

Why in the H-E-"double toothpicks" do we give a rat's a** about what these Taiwanese investors? All they want is to make huge bucks from making the Tri-Valley look like the over-developed mess that is Taiwan or Hong Kong.

Posted by Ann, a resident of Val Vista
on Aug 18, 2010 at 2:03 pm

"Let's turn the Tri-Valley into Los Angeles" Give me a break. The deal that the Council negotiated included only 51 homes on a site which could have held 86 and a free park of almost 500 acres. And this on some low, rolling hills to the south of town which are already covered by other housing developments. That's not exactly suburban sprawl. If you had taken a tour of the property, you would have seen that the best views are the ones from the proposed park. It's a lovely park site full of wildflowers and oak trees with very walkable paths. EBRP just opened a park west of Dublin, where land was donated by the developer. There is no comparison. The one in Pleasanton would be so much nicer. It's a shame that all the people who supported this negotiated deal with the Lins didn't bother vote on the 8th and that it had to come to this. I have no liking for law suits, but I can only hope, for the ultimate sake of the residents of Pleasanton, that the Lins win this one.

Posted by ToldYaSo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 2:50 pm

The lawsuit is, of course, NO surprise, and merely by their filing, the owners of the property have "won". The losers? The citizens of Pleasanton, of course! REMEMBER WHO LED US TO THIS POSITION THE NEXT TIME YOU VOTE!!! Oh, yeah, and to call Karla Brown a "GOP-er" is really a misnomer! How about just another self-centered left-wing NIMBY? Study the issues, KNOW the candidates as best you can, and vote accordingly this Fall, folks. Some say all politics is Local; not quite true right now, but still very important! First, we have to get rid of the Pelosi/Reid Gang, and get back to some sensible positions with regard to this country! But, don't forget P'Town also! We deserve the best leadership available at City Hall.

Posted by Confused, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 18, 2010 at 2:58 pm

ToldYaSo says "Study the issues, KNOW the candidates as best you can, and vote accordingly this Fall, folks." and implies that those in City Hall are somehow responsible for the "owners of the property" not being allowed to develop and build on their land.

I thought that the mayor came out in support of the development? How are those "at City Hall" then responsible for the "citizens of Pleasanton" "losing"?

Posted by Fed Up Taxpayer, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 18, 2010 at 5:42 pm

I still want to know who is going to pay the legal fees if the City decides to fight the Lin's lawsuit?????

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