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Documentary about the Zero tolerance policy in schools

Original post made by Paulette, Val Vista, on Aug 6, 2010

Go to the books and movies section of the forum for a complete description on a wonderful documentary called "The War on Kids," that will be playing at the IBEW Hall; 6250 Village Parkway, Dublin on Saturday, August 7th, at 7 PM. Potluck starts at 6:30 PM. It's free. An optional discussion follows, for those who care to stay.

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Posted by Mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 6, 2010 at 6:26 pm

Please give the link. I can not find it.


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Posted by Interesting
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2010 at 12:26 am

I see this link on the web. This sounds like a documentary that would be worthwhile for all parents to see. I remember recently hearing in the news about the 6 year old cub scout who the school system wanted to send to reform school for 45 days for bringing in a fork/spoon camping utensil used to eat his lunch. Web Link

Here is the Wikipedia entry on the documentary being shown.
Web Link


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Posted by Pleasantons dirty little secret
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2010 at 9:30 am

Web Link
Pleasantons dirty little secret......they have declared War on our kids. This is happening in Pleasanton.

Children are paraded off Pleasanton school campus' because of minor and percieved infractions.

Zero Tolerance policies in public schools, which were designed to eradicate drugs and weapons at schools. By arbitrary application ....this policy has turned schools into Kafka-esque nightmares, absurd and demoralizing. Increasingly, issues once dealt with by the guidance counselor or a trip to the principal's office, are now handled by hand cuffs in the hands of police.

Students are denied basic constitutional rights. They can be searched., drug-tested, forced to incriminate themselves and capriciously punished. ... creating an atmosphere of fear and loathing, anger and despair.

The rampant diagnoses of ADD and similar conditions are shown to be intimately connected to pharmaceutical companies' promotional activities.The alleged disorder know as ODD - oppositional defiance disorder - is used to further control kids, and is a gateway for further authoritative measures, often of the extreme kind.

Public schools are modeled after a Prussian system, one geared towards creating compliant soldiers.

Ultimately, the film argues that more money, smaller classrooms, better trained teachers and other bromides won't produce effective education because the problems are deep and institutional.

........authoritarian underpinnings of America's child-centered culture, in which a pervasive climate of fear distorts perception of the dangers posed by and to children.

"A shocking chronicle of institutional dysfunction, 'The War on Kids' likens our public school system to prison and its disciplinary methods to fascism."

"citing an egregious abuse of constitutional rights and professional ethics"

The media has focused on the waterboarding of three suspected terrorists . . . but not on the thousands of children who have been captured, incarcerated, deprived of parental contact, interrogated, and thereby abused to such an extent that they have been tortured with impunity. Why the disinterest in the rights of children within the United States? The apparent main reason, that American adults want to maintain control over children, is the thesis of the documentary The War on Kids.

Francos relates an incident in from his own life in middle school and contrasts that experience with the current atmosphere in today's schools: " If that incident were to happen now, posits the new film documentary The War on Kids, I more likely to have been suspended for a year, been taken to court in shackles, and had a felony conviction on my record."


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 7, 2010 at 11:59 am

Good call dirty little secret. The CPS is in this also. It can't be blamed on one political party either. Both administrations advocate the Facism taking over this country. The media conceals it from all. It is the New World Order. They are programming the children for whats ahead. They said it would only take one generation of children.
How do you get a dumbed down public concerned only about entertainment to wake up to the reality?


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 7, 2010 at 12:02 pm

Good post Paulette!


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Posted by Interesting
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2010 at 9:41 pm

"War on Kids" is available on line and if you download the video player for VEOH, you can watch the entire content Web Link .

I watched this. I am appalled. Kids regularly being arrested on school campuses? A Zero Tolerance policy? And kids being hauled off to jail for things like "Possession of Ibuprofen"? And having no civil rights so they can be questioned/interrogated without the parent present?

This is absolutely shocking.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 8, 2010 at 11:57 pm

Here's another link. You don't have to download anything on this site, TagTele. Web Link

Part 1 of 6


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Posted by Oh please
a resident of Beratlis Place
on Aug 9, 2010 at 1:47 pm

This might be happening in other school districts, but not in Pleasanton. This district bends over backwards to make the parents happy. It's disgusting to see how much Pleasanton kids get away with.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 9, 2010 at 4:21 pm

OP,
You are Wrong; this does go on in Pleasanton.

If an adolescent does not abstain from everything always, they are a criminal.

Parents have been programmed to believe that if the child cannot conform, the child is defective. Don't argue with the source of wisdom, don't argue with administrators.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 8:32 am

My daughter was suspended for a day and a half because she defended her self against a bully. The bully did not get any punisment...instead was made to be a victim. Makes me sick.


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Posted by Me Too
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 8:51 am

My son was suspended at a middle school here for "hugging a boy at lunch." The boy reported to the vp that the hug made him "feel uncomfortable," but my son suspected he was milkng it. The boy had been throwing food prior to that, and my son decided "he needs a hug." Boy throwing food was unpunished. A document in my son's permanant record now reads: "Hugged boy at lunch." What kind of monster am I raising????


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Posted by definately something to it
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 9:24 am

I have to agree to the "culture of conformity". I have definately educated my son - who has been bullied in PUSD schools since 1st grade, with nothing but "talking" being done to the bullies - on what the schools' and administrators' actions are, and his rights and my rights as a parent. He knows that if he even responses in kind he could/would be the one punished. Where is our "common sense"? We have let laws, rules and political correctness overrule basic common sense in our schools.


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Posted by Jacquelyn R.
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Aug 10, 2010 at 10:01 am

In the name of sanity this entire cabal against our freedoms & our children to become good little servants to the system must be stopped! Another lovely story that hit too close to home (yet never seemed to get any coverage) our neighbor who's son was not just suspended but expelled from school for having the audacity to bring a small plastic toy soldier to school with him & because that small plastic toy soldier was holding an even smaller toy plastic gun, yep you guessed it, instant expulsion. We know that the family has a lawsuit pending against the school, head administrators, the district & school board & seeing that the father is a partner in a good sized law firm on the Peninsula something tells me they're in this to win. I hate too see our town saddled with any additional legal expenses or fees these days but perhaps a lesson will be learned from this & the exposure it is bringing to light of the utter nonsense that has seeped into our school systems.


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Posted by reasonable
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 12:39 pm

Not long ago my otherwise strong and confident young son was being physicallyl pushed around by a new child at school (who came from a troubled background -- enough said). The school bent over backward to make this child feel welcome so everything was "use your words" and "you two work this out". My son was frustrated to the point of tears and no longer wanted to participate in playground sports since no one would do anything about this.

So, call me a bad parent, but I told him to fight back, preferably when the yard duties weren't watching, and we would back him up if he got into trouble. After just one retaliation he was never bothered again. Sorry, but you can't just let bullies walk all over the "good kids" and then get the good kids in trouble for defending themselves.


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Posted by Interesting
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 pm

Jacquelyn R, did this happen at Mohr Elementary? They actually expelled a child for bringing a toy soldier to school???

This is insane. I see that in another part of the country a kid was almost suspended for bringing a 2 inch plastic toy gun to school.

Web Link


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Posted by Ditto
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 1:30 pm

I could have written the post "Reasonable" myself! Our family had the exact same problem and finally solved it the same way - after 5 years of dealing with the same nasty kid and no results from the schools. It worked! We were amazed. No problems ever again. Sheeesh. I think little boys need permission to defend themselves.

A final note: the bully was arrested twice in high school for assault, sent to an alternative school and eventually earned his GED. He's now gainfully employed. Somehow it usually all works out but we could have saved ourselves a lot of grief by letting our son duke it out in 3rd grade.


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Posted by Please Speak Out
a resident of Danbury Park
on Aug 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm

If your child is getting bullied and the school is not doing anything about it, please speak out. Call the district office and demand a meeting with the superintendent. I guarantee you will see results.

Sometimes the district coddles the wrong students.


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Posted by Strip searches?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 6:31 pm

I just read the other thread regarding the Supreme Court case where the District performed a strip search on a 13 year old honor student, a female, based on an uncorroborated statement of another student who was facing disciplinary action. They were looking for Advil!!!

What insanity is this? Do you mean to tell me that school districts have the right to strip search students? Is this not the most stupid abuse of authority ever? Look at this case:

Web Link

Don't school districts have to have probable cause? And when is Advil considered an illegal drug. I have Advil in the glove compartment of my car. Do you mean the Pleasanton school district could actually go and search my car looking for Advil "contraband?"


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Posted by Allen
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Aug 12, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Message to the parents who's children are being pushed around by bullies, get your kids into some martial arts training classes, they would be able to defend themselves quite well. I assure you the bullies would stop harrassing them, hugs don't work as well.


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Posted by jjose
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on Aug 23, 2010 at 9:36 am

This movie is ight-wing conspiracy propoganda and a bunch of BS. Don't fall for it.


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Posted by jjose
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Aug 23, 2010 at 9:36 am

*right-wing


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