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Letters: Lockout not strike

Original post made on Jul 23, 2010

Dear Editor,

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, July 23, 2010, 12:00 AM

Comments (14)

Posted by Captain Hook, a resident of Castlewood
on Jul 23, 2010 at 11:00 am

Patricia, nice story but you neglected to tell all of the facts. First, the union says that they care about the workers at Castlewood but in reality after being locked out for almost 150 days the union hasn't even allowed the workers to vote on anything yet. The reason is because this same union is currently on strike with some of the larger hotels in San Francisco. They don't want to take a chance that the Castlewood workers would vote on giving something back on their contract that could hurt them in their negotiations with the large hotel chains. You won't see this union begin to get serious about negotiating with Castlewood until they finish dealing with the hotels. Second, this union that is supposed to be for it's workers has been going to some of the workers homes and to the new jobs that some of them have found and harrassing them personally. Not a very good way for the union to keep their dues paying members happy, would you agree? Unfortunately for Castlewood and the union, the good workers who were locked out have gone on to other (non-union) jobs. If and when this lockout ends they will not be coming back to Castlewood or the union. The people you see walking the picket line are the few workers who are left who haven't been ambitious enough to find another job, mixed in with hired protesters. These ex-workers on the picket line are now just being used as pawns by the union. If the union REALLY cared about these ex-workers they would have found them another job at another union establishment by now. On a positive note, there are 60 +/- replacement workers now working at Castlewood who were formally unemployed and are now able to provide for their families. They are fitting in very well at Castlewood and are doing an outstanding job.


Posted by History Buff, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm

It is the Constitutional right of rich white people to exploit others of lesser economic means for their recreational and social pleasure. Look it up. I remember in the early 1970s when Heavyweight Champ George Foreman wanted to buy a home in Castlewood and was turned down because he was (and still is) black. Nothing much has really changed in Castlewood since then.


Posted by Arroyo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 23, 2010 at 7:47 pm

Hmmmm. Who would I rather have for a neighbor? George Foreman or "History Buff"? I think I'll take George Foreman. (Is he REALLY black?)

What the heck does this have to do with a labor dispute at CCC????


Posted by History Buff, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 23, 2010 at 8:13 pm

Racism and economic exploitation are two sides of the same coin and that coin is the coin of the realm at Castlewood - always has been. Since you don't want me as your neighbor because I'm black, you must live in Castlewood.


Posted by Gone Fishing, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 23, 2010 at 8:50 pm

History Buff - You are making an outrageous claim that I would like you to prove with some hard evidence. Also, even if what you say is true your accusation is almost 40 years old, a lifetime ago for most people today. The homes are NOT part of Castlewood Country Club. Who lives in the homes around the Club is none of Castlewood Country Club's business, they are all privately owned.
As far as your "rich white people" comment goes, there is a substantial portion of the membership at Castlewood that are minorities. Get you facts straight before to spout off your racist remarks. The locked out employees will soon be "EX" employees if the members have there way.


Posted by Jobless, a resident of Las Positas
on Jul 26, 2010 at 9:27 am

I used to have a great job with ok benefits, but because of the economy the company I worked for was forced to make cuts. Stop crying about having a job!!! Stop crying about the changes in the economy. Embrace it and grow up or get another job. Do not force your employer to change. If Castlewood was such a horrible place to work they would not be able to hire anyone and they would be forced to offer more money or better benefits. That is how a free economy functions.


Posted by Arroyo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2010 at 6:52 pm

The interesting thing about History Buff's second post is I had no way of knowing he was black. Yet, he presumed that I knew he was black, and that is why I chose the other as a neighbor. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Last week a great friend of mine was buried. We had fished together and truly enjoyed each others' company. My friend was black and I will miss him.

I support CCC because I believe the unions are using the employees to further their own interests. If the former CCC employees were smart they would jettison that union, tell the business agents to go pound salt, and return to their jobs.


Posted by Larry Ferderber, a resident of Rosepointe
on Jul 27, 2010 at 8:10 am

Patricia - your letter is a welcome addition to the discussion on Castlewood's lock out of their employees. Hopefully it will help increase community and member awareness of this tragic situation and contribute to a quicker settlement of the dispute. Thanks for caring and taking the time to share your views.


Posted by Curly, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm

Tragic situation? Hardly. Its called life, and there are cosequences to decisions. The union gambled with its members lives and and lost. With the exception of a few histerical fools, and union officials that have no problem telling other people how to spend their money, nobody cares.

The vast majority of the former employees have already found other jobs. The few that have not should stop trusting the union and look out for themselves.


Posted by Peter Pan, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2010 at 4:25 pm

Captain Hook sounds like a CCC Board member. Don't you men have any self control??

Mr. Closure, can you please put a muzzle on your directors? Or how about a good old shock collar. The angry rants should be an embarrassment to CCC.


Posted by Larry Ferderber, a resident of Rosepointe
on Jul 28, 2010 at 8:42 am

Castlewood members have been lead to believe that the Union's positions in bargaining with Castlewood are somehow related to its bargaining positions in the downtown Oakland hotels and food service negotiations, or to negotiations in San Francisco where Unite Here Local 2850 has no members. This is highly unlikely. These hotels are not in market competition with private golf clubs many miles away. While the Castlewood Lockout continues most of these negotiations have been settled. What is much more likely driving the Union's bargaining position at Castlewood is internal to the dynamics at Castlewood alone, specifically the abrupt reduction in medical benefits for spouses, domestic partners and dependent children of the workers who have historically depended on Castlewood for their medical coverage.


Posted by Dark Corners of Town, a resident of Country Fair
on Jul 28, 2010 at 11:08 am

To 'Larry Ferderber' - All of Unite Here local 2850's actions are related. The specific bargaining positions at each work site may be different while the purpose of the union's behavior is the same. The union's facebook page (Web Link) shows that they are working at national actions (Hyatt), regional actions (Hilton Oakland) and locally (CCC). Market competition between those businesses has nothing to do with how the union behaves.


Posted by human being, a resident of Val Vista
on Jun 24, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Larry Ferderber, You seem to have the most objective and intelligent remarks. I have no involvement in this job action, and just stumbled onto this blog. Seems employers today want their employees to show up with a smile on their face, exhibit loyalty, commit their time to the company, than discard them as soon as they need support. Dark Corners of Town is entitled to his/her opinion, but based on his/her remark, that's all it is. As the reference to 2850 is far from factual.


Posted by Paulie, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Sep 2, 2011 at 9:40 am

In this case, it appears Union leadership failed to accept a competitive offer vs similar jobs available to it's members and should be replaced. Ms Huber, and her peers only focus on how their health coverage has changed-- why don't they post the whole package and show a comparison of what similar places pay in total comp (wages,benefits and tips))?..I suspect, because they'd lose all of their blind support.


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