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Stop the Madness - HCR Backlash

Original post made by Pleasanton Mom for Truth, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Mar 24, 2010

As an American, I'm outraged at these tactics. Let's see some real leadership from the Republicans - a public statement against this kind of behavior - before this gets even more out of hand. How dare the families of congressional representatives be brought into this in this manner.

"Reps. Louise Slaughter and Bart Stupak have received death threats.
A tea party participant published what he thought was Rep. Thomas Perriello's home address and urged disgruntled voters to "drop by" for a "good face-to-face chat."
Vandals broke windows at Slaughter's office in New York and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords's office in Arizona.
And angry voters are planning to protest this weekend at the home of Steve Driehaus — who's already seen a photograph of his children used in a newspaper ad published by reform opponents.
The vitriolic health care debate has become personal — too personal, say House Democrats who voted for the bill and now find not just themselves but their families in the cross hairs of opponents.
Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to "kill the children of the members who voted yes." Her office reported the call to police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter's grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in upstate New York.
Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left messages for him saying, "You're dead; we know where you live; we'll get you."

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 24, 2010 at 1:29 pm

There are always consequences when people get this hot 'n bothered.

I wouldn't blame teabaggers for the threats.

Extremists? YUP! but mes petites, wait for the facts...it will unfold...


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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Mar 24, 2010 at 1:54 pm

So as someone for truth, then you will admit that this goes on at both extremes of the political spectrum, will you not?


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 1:58 pm

Jim, do provide examples of liberals making death threats to families of conservative congressional representatives so that I may understand the whole truth.
On a side note, why are you so obsessed with the word "admit?"


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 2:02 pm

And Jim, why don't you address the topic at hand, rather than trying to divert the subject? You can't possibly think it's okay for these people to be issuing death threats to representatives' families, can you?


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Remember this:

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Democratic Party HQ in Denver vandalized...by A DEMOCRAT!

The Democratic Party's Denver office was attacked by two vandals last night. The two reportedly covered their faces before shattering several windows with hammers and riding away on bicycles. Behind those windows were posters depicting Barack Obama and calling for support of his health care scheme.

Naturally there was immediate outrage among local Democrats when the story broke, and Republicans, Conservatives and anyone else opposed to Barack Obama's health care scheme were blamed and condemned for it.

Unluckily for the Democrats however, the police quickly snarfed up one of the vandals, and it turned out to be a committed leftist (read: "Democrat") by the name of Maurice Schwenkler. And who is Maurice Schwenkler, you ask? Well according to news reports, he's a paid activist for a so-called "Progressive" (read: "Democrat") front group called the Colorado Citizens Coalition, an organization that lobbied for Barack Obama's health care scheme.

Reichstag Fire, anyone? It sure looks like the extreme left has been caught red-handed trying to gin up support for their cause and discredit anyone who opposes them by attacking their own building and crying "victim". I'm guessing that they didn't expect Denver's Finest to be on the ball, but alas, DPD snared the alleged malefactor and darn the bad luck, but it's one of the Dems' own!

This is apparently what we can expect from Obama's crowd, folks. They'll attack us and call us names for disagreeing, and then they'll attack themselves and blame us...all because they can't convince a majority of Americans to go along with any more of their attempts to grab more control of the private sector and spend more money.

Good job, Denver Police. But for you guys, they might have gotten away with this.

UPDATE: More to come on this. Denver Police reportedly have Schwenkler's accomplice in custody now, too.

UPDATE #2: No one else in custody now, but it turns out that Schwenkler is a shemale and radical gay activist. It's friends are trying to raise bail money and they beg--publicly--for people to not call the jail and "out" Schwenkler as a guy who thinks he's a gal. As if making that request publicly isn't going to do that...do those retards think that jail inmates don't watch TV, listen to the radio, talk to family or see newspapers? Come on now...


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 24, 2010 at 2:24 pm

This was the source of that article:
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I remembered the story, and didn't see any other links to it in the first page of google responses.


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 2:39 pm

PM's article states, "This is apparently what we can expect from Obama's crowd, folks. They'll attack us and call us names for disagreeing, and then they'll attack themselves and blame us...all because they can't convince a majority of Americans to go along with any more of their attempts to grab more control of the private sector and spend more money."
I'm part of Obama's "crowd," and neither I nor any other "crowd" members I know have engaged in this type of activity.
Now, if by posting this story you are trying to imply that this isolated incident indicates that the person saying they will send snipers to kill the kill the children of members who voted yes is either A. the same type of threat or B. probably one of "Obama's crowd," I guess I really shouldn't be surprised. DODGE! ATTACK! DODGE! ATTACK!
Don't worry, we've seen enough poor behavior from citizens and representatives on the right in the last four days to be reasonably assured where the threats are coming from.
BTW to Cholo - I didn't accuse the Tea Partiers, my quote was from the article. I don't care who is doing it, it needs to come down from the right's leadership that it's not ok.


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Posted by Matt
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 2:45 pm

"Unluckily for the Democrats however, the police quickly snarfed up one of the vandals, and it turned out to be a committed leftist (read: "Democrat") by the name of Maurice Schwenkler. And who is Maurice Schwenkler, you ask? Well according to news reports, he's a paid activist for a so-called "Progressive" (read: "Democrat") front group called the Colorado Citizens Coalition, an organization that lobbied for Barack Obama's health care scheme."

I doubt you and your ilk would appreciate it if someone said "so-called "Tea Party" (read: "Republicans")" or "committed fascist" (read: "Republican")

Pleasanton Mom, please consider the accuracy and hyperbole of what you post (or re-post)(or re-re-re-post) and how it reflects upon all Pleasanton Moms, including my own.


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Posted by Little Mikey
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 24, 2010 at 3:07 pm

How do we know Pleasanton Mom is a Mom or even from Pleasanton for that matter? She could very well be Karl Rove or some other closeted Republican operative playing fast and loose with the facts within our midst.

She could even be one of those "she-males" she claims to know so well.


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Matt, very well stated.

Jimf01, yes, extremists exist on both sides of this issue. Throughout these threads there are people who generously share their experience and why they so vehemently support/reject the proposed changes. Then there are those who worship one particular view and seem to have considerable time to download and paste extremist rantings – I haven't the patience to read one more.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 24, 2010 at 6:17 pm

do you really think i care about the "truth"? NOT!

i like to hear about scandals and people talk about divorce...love it when thieves and drunk drivers get busted...

you should talk matt...sheeeeeeeesch...

also, i like to read what posters try to pass off as debate! a scream...

tee he hee, tee hee hee...duh


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Posted by Matt
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 6:23 pm

This is popcorn worthy, I must admit.

This forum is off the meter for "Someone is WRONG on the internet".


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm

And this one:

Lawmaker's son, 4 others charged in tire slashing
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The sons of a first-term congresswoman and Milwaukee's former acting mayor were among five Democratic activists charged Monday with slashing the tires of vans rented by Republicans to drive voters and monitors to the polls on Election Day.

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Posted by Matt
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 7:47 pm

Someone find me something on Watergate.


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Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Tire slashing v. death threats. I'm sure they're the same.
Hmmmmmmmm.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Pleasanton Mom,

So if one kid hits another kid, well that's ok because the other kid hit someone else? Hitting is not ok. Did you miss that part?

Stop trying to excuse the actions of a few simply because you agree with them politically. What they did is wrong and to suggest that that's ok because the other side also did it is wrong too.


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Mar 24, 2010 at 8:49 pm

Janna is a registered user.

The latest hate coming from the right is a picture of President Obama in cross-hairs. Seems to be making the rounds on the internet. This is typical right wing behavior, despite what PM has posted. I'm sure someone here not functioning on all cylinders will tell us how that pictures is not only ok, but justified. Sick bastards.


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 24, 2010 at 10:32 pm

What about Palin's "target list" with leaders pictures posted and their home states with cross hairs on them. Combined with the right to carry arms, and Tea Party protesters coming armed to their parties? It seems to me that Palin is certainly leading her people, when they dont get their way, they use threats and weapons. These are not the leaders I want in charge. Keep going GOP- you are certainly creating your own crazy, one that is not representative of the democracy I value.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 26, 2010 at 6:25 pm

did somebody say watergate? love it!!@!

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i've been released....alas...free alas...


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 26, 2010 at 6:29 pm

i have released the prisoners...


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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Mar 29, 2010 at 12:36 pm

Here is your example pm4t

Web Link

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I would have posted the lamestream media version of the story, but they fail to mention his donations to the Democrats. Funny, huh? Note how that same media will jump right in _trying_ to link Tea Partiers to anything extreme on the right.


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