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'Tea party' protesters accused of spitting on lawmaker, using slurs

Original post made by Athens on Mar 20, 2010

This is an article from The Washington Post:

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"Members of the Congressional Black Caucus said that racial epithets were hurled at them Saturday by angry protesters who had gathered at the Capitol to protest health-care legislation, and one congressman said he was spit upon. The most high-profile openly gay congressman, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), was heckled with anti-gay chants."

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Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:00 am

Janna is a registered user.

Yeah, they called Barney a "faggot" then laughed. These are the tea baggers, bigots and haters. The sad part is this is all they've got. No original thoughts, just name-calling and mocking. What a disgusting group.


Posted by Pleasantonian Mom, a resident of Beratlis Place
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:02 am

These people are true patriots!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:03 am

Janna is a registered user.

You would think that!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:04 am

Janna is a registered user.

Damn! Thought you were PM. I hope you weren't serious!


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:09 am

Obviously the use of racial slurs is disgusting. "And then there is the old leftist trick: Agent Provacateur, one who poses as the enemy in order to confuse. Like the reporter who supposedly shouted "kill him", referring to Obama, at the Palin rally, and then claimed he heard it."

March 21, 2010
About those racial slurs tossed at black Congressmen yesterday
By Rick Moran

I find it fascinating that in all the reports in the MSM on the story involving racial epithets being shouted at black Congressmen, very few mention that the only evidence for these racial slurs comes from the Congressmen themselves.

And they'd never lie about something like that, right?

Dan Loesch has a video of the Congressmen in question walking past tea party protestors and, while the slurs might have been shouted before or after the video, they are not being used while this particular camera was rolling:



Now let's be clear and let's be fair; it is possible that Rep. Lewis - an icon of the Civil Rights Movement who suffered and nearly died for his advocacy - did indeed, hear the "N" word shouted at him either before this camera started to roll or after it stopped. After all, the recording is only 22 seconds long and only proves that for those 22 seconds, it is impossible to make out any "screams" or "shouts" of the "N" word.

But the fact is, all we have is his word for it. There is no video or audio evidence that has surfaced that would confirm his very serious charges. On the other hand, we have the video above that debunks them.

Who to believe?

Lewis has earned the right to be believed. Would he abuse that trust to make up charges like this in order to cast aspersions on a very effective lobbying force against health care reform? I honestly don't know. But I believe he would not be above exaggerating what happened in order to score political points against his enemies.

Indeed, even if a few yahoos tossed racial epithets in Lewis' direction, is that any cause to tar the entire 10,000 strong protest with the smear of "racist?" Certainly not. And if he's going to make that charge, he better have a helluva lot more proof than his say so.

Carl Sagan used to say "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." In this case - and because this video exists - the burden is on Lewis to prove his incendiary charges. Even with his stellar and much admired reputation, the use of the term racist by Lewis when applied to a fellow American demands more evidence than the Congressman has offered so far.


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Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:15 am

OMG--a REPUBLICAN says that the Republicans didn't do it? Of course it must be true!

Just like Bush's "internal investigation" of Plamegate concluded--surprise!--that no one in the White House had anything to do with it.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:19 am

Janna is a registered user.

PM,

You have it so backwards. The right are the ones who start EVERYTHING. They cannot reach a goal without doing it subversively. They cannot be honest because they only stand for themselves and that doesn't sell well.

If you're going to doubt Lewis' story, perhaps you should link to an unbiased website. That site spreads nothing but feces and people like you eat it right up.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:21 am

Janna is a registered user.

PM is way in over her head and doesn't even know it. Fear is a terrible motivator, but works like a charm on republicans.


Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:24 am

I just found this one article that suggests that lynchings weren't actually performed by lynch mobs, citing the fact that nothing was caught on camera. Those people probably lynched themselves. Sounds reasonable.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:28 am

Janna is a registered user.

Isn't that like how the Iraqis are somehow killing themselves in a war zone? According to some, the U.S. hasn't killed one innocent civilian. And we certainly haven't killed pregnant women and children cause we're pro-life!

I guess people can believe anything they want, but we're certainly entitled to label them as delusional for those beliefs.


Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:34 am

I wonder if this is how Holocaust deniers get started.


Posted by Dan Doerr, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:36 am

Janna -

You have it backwards.

Let's assume first that names were in fact called.

Let's see. A couple of idiots call Barney Frank, a very much out of the closet homosexual, a "faggot". And the same, or other, idiots call a black congressman a "N" (even if I put quotes around the whole word I would still get flamed so just fill in the rest in your head).

This is not the first time for either of them to be called these things. So what is their response? Is it to label the INDIVIDUALS idiots, racists or homophobes? No. It is to get as much press as possible branding the entire movement racist.

THAT is name calling.

They don't say all men are racists because it was a man you yelled "N", or women if it was a woman. They don't say the entire Congress is racist every time a Congressman or Senator is caught using the "N" word or "Faggot".

So why now? Simple. They can't attack the ideas put forth by the Tea Partiers (I am not one by the way - wouldnt even know where to go to join), so instead they attack by name calling.


On the other hand, like PM points out, it wouldn't be the first time that someone used the race card when race wasn't really the issue!

Shame on all of them.


Posted by IMHO, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:39 am

you know, I think ??? Janna and I are on the same side in regard to this bill, but seeing some of her comments throughout various posts makes her appear what she accuses others of being.

Janna please consider thinking before you type. you color all of us who support this bill in the same light you seem to want to be perceived.


Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:39 am

Dan Doerr, Racism Defender!

You, sir, are a credit to your political party.


Posted by Dan Doerr, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:45 am

Nurse Shark -

Did you actually read what I wrote or do you just not understand?


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:47 am

Excerpt:

"Our nation's top historians reveal that the Democratic Party gave us the Ku Klux Klan, Black Codes, Jim Crow Laws and other repressive legislation which resulted in the multitude of murders, lynchings, mutilations, and intimidations (of thousands of black and white Republicans). On the issue of slavery: historians say the Democrats gave their lives to expand it, the Republicans gave their lives to ban it."

The Democrats:
◦Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it.
◦Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
◦Democrats supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect slavery.
◦Democrats supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand slavery.
◦Democrats supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
◦Democrats opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
◦Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.
◦Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having been a "Kleagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.
◦Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
◦Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans.
◦Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.
◦Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
◦Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first appointment to the Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black, Democrat of Alabama.
◦Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt's choice for vice president in 1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in 1922.
◦Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to pass a federal law against lynching.
◦Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the armed forces.
◦Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
◦Democrats supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of Plessy v Ferguson.
◦Democrats supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
◦Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, in Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.
◦Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters were fighting.
◦Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox "brandished an ax hammer to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
◦Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
◦Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of Little Rock public schools.
◦Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act.
◦Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King.
◦Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI.
◦Democrat President Bill Clinton's mentor was U.S. Senator J. William Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.
◦Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in 1966-67.
◦Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto opposing the Supreme Court's 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
◦Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
◦Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
◦Southern Democrats opposed desegregation and integration.

Democrats opposed:

1.The Emancipation Proclamation
2.The 13th Amendment
3.The 14th Amendment
4.The 15th Amendment
5.The Reconstruction Act of 1867
6.The Civil Rights of 1866
7.The Enforcement Act of 1870
8.The Forced Act of 1871
9.The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
10.The Civil Rights Act of 1875
11.The Freeman Bureau
12.The Civil Rights Act of 1957
13.The Civil Rights Act of 1960
14.The United State Civil Rights Commission

Republicans gave strong bi-partisan support and sponsorship for the following
legislation:

1.The Civil Rights Act of 1964
2.The Voting Rights Act of 1965
3.The 1968 Civil Rights Acts
4.The Equal Opportunity Act of 1972
5.Goals and Timetables for Affirmative Action Programs
6.Comprehensive Employment Training Act of 1973
7.Voting Rights Act of Amendment of 1982
8.Civil Rights Act of 1983
9.Federal Contract Compliance and Workforce Development Act of 1988
The Republicans:
◦Republicans enacted civil rights laws in the 1950's and 1960's, over the objection of Democrats.
◦Republicans founded the HBCU's (Historical Black College's and Universities) and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Democrats.
◦Republicans pushed through much of the ground-breaking civil rights legislation in Congress.
◦Republicans fought slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom, citizenship and the right to vote.
◦Republicans pushed through much of the groundbreaking civil rights legislation from the 1860s through the 1960s.
◦Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops into the South to desegregate the schools.
◦Republican President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
◦Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, was the one who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960's.
◦Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
◦Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.
◦Republican and black American, A. Phillip Randolph, organized the 1963 March by Dr. King on Washington.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act Roll Call Vote: In the House, only 64 percent of the Democrats (153 yes, 91 no), but 80 percent of the Republicans (136 yes, 35 no), voted for it. In the Senate, while only 68 percent of the Democrats endorsed the bill (46 yes, 21 no), 82 percent of the Republicans voted to enact it (27 yes, 6 no).

Thaddeus Stevens, a Radical Republican that introduced legislation to give African Americans the so-called 40 acres and a mule and Democrats overwhelmingly voted against the bill.

During the Senate debates on the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, it was revealed that members of the Democratic Party formed many terrorist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to murder and intimidate African Americans voters. The Ku Klux Klan Act was a bill introduced by a Republican Congress to stop Klan Activities.

History reveals that Democrats lynched, burned, mutilated and murdered thousands of blacks and completely destroyed entire towns and communities occupied by middle class Blacks, including Rosewood, Florida, the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma, and Wilmington, North Carolina to name a few.

History reveals that it was Abolitionists and Radical Republicans such as Henry L. Morehouse and General Oliver Howard that started many of the traditional Black colleges, while Democrats fought to keep them closed. Many of our traditional Black colleges are named after white Republicans.

After exclusively giving the Democrats their votes for the past 25 years, the average African American cannot point to one piece of civil rights legislation sponsored solely by the Democratic Party that was specifically designed to eradicate the unique problems that African Americans face today.

As of 2004, the Democrat Party (the oldest political party in America) has never elected a black man to the United States Senate, the Republicans have elected three.

Source:

Web Link


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:50 am

Janna is a registered user.

Oh, please, have you seen the signs being carried at the protests? If that's not racism and bigotry, I don't know what is. You and PM want to doubt the stories because it reflects on you through association. Perhaps you should reconsider your associations then if it's a problem for you.

I'm not saying that every person out there is a bigot, but that is a huge motivator behind the protests and anyone would be blind not to recognize that. Funny how you question me about my motives, but not the tea-baggers.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:56 am

Janna is a registered user.

PM, anywhere in that diatribe does it mention that the parties have switched philosophies over the years? So the people you're calling "democrat" were in fact the same people who would now be considered republicans.

Who I really consider "rats" are the southern liberals who jumped to conservatism after rights were given to people they didn't like.


Posted by Dan Doerr, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 10:59 am

Janna -

Not associated with the Tea Party so no guilt by association here.

While you claim you are not saying that every person is a bigot, you very clearly are calling every person who disagrees with you on the issue of this health care bill a bigot and a racist - either directly or implicitly, and that is just wrong.

Stop the personal attacks. They are no more welcome here than they should be at a Tea Party protest.

Your problem is that when the issue itself is examined, this health care bill is a tragedy for the whole country - homosexuals and homophobes alike.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Mar 21, 2010 at 11:05 am

Web Link Did somebody say Republicans?


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 21, 2010 at 11:18 am

Janna,

It is Liberalism, not Conservatism, that has destroyed the Black family.

Apostle Claver T. Kamau-Imani discusses "the prodigal voter".

Web Link

When I discovered Lloyd Marcus at the Tea Party Express events, I read every article he wrote on his website www.lloydmarcus.com
He writes about his life, and how the Democrat Party has hurt black families, and how Conservatism is best for all people.


Here's another young black guy explaining the healthcare bill and liberalism. I've seen a lot of his videos. I hope you listen to him.
Web Link





Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 11:20 am

Janna is a registered user.

PM,

Does that make you some sort of savior?


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Mar 21, 2010 at 11:23 am

Janna,

I know you need to hate me, but I am really not your enemy.


Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 11:34 am

Apostle Claver T. Kamau-Imani? WHO?!?

Is there no credible source for ANY of your claims?


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Mar 21, 2010 at 12:17 pm

This thread should be retitled Janna's true colors.

Janna, you seriously need to rethink things. If you ever actually talk to a typical tea partier, you will find that they are motivated by positive things. Yes, there are fringe elements in the movement, just as there are fringe elements in todays progressive movement who are doing and saying things that are outrageous.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm

Janna is a registered user.

I wouldn't waste my energy hating on someone so sad, PM.

I see you as entertainment mostly. The scary thing is those who don't realize you have no idea what you speak of.


Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm

Oh, come on Jim. I was at the rally on Friday and this is what I heard from the Tea Party people, every time HCR proponents tried to speak:
"Sheeeeeeple"
"Move to Canada"
"Get a job"
"Move to Cuba"
"You're crazy"
And best of all, "Jesus would take care of himself."
You're not fooling anyone any more. It's a movement based on anger at the way the country is changing, and it doesn't have much to do with a concern for our economic stability. Otherwise, where were you all when Bush was cutting taxes while funding a war? What did you THINK was going to happen with the deficit?


Posted by Pleasantonian Mom, a resident of Beratlis Place
on Mar 21, 2010 at 2:19 pm

The more I think about it, the more I agree with Dan Doerr. Hurling the "N" word and anti-gay epithets is fine. It's when the person being called that responds by saying someone is homophobic or racist that the line gets crossed.

Don't you understand how this is hurtful to homophobes and racists? Will the persecution of the white party ever end?


Posted by Pablo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 2:32 pm

Janna, why don't you find a job and maybe help your husband a bit or for that matter stay off of the computer because you have no money right. Oh, that is right you are still living off of the backs of your fellow taxpayers..........wait not fellow taxpayers because you pay none because you are lazy. Don't you feel bad when your neighbors and people on this blog realize you are lazy and a non contributor? No pride.


Posted by Nurse Shark, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Mar 21, 2010 at 2:51 pm

Pablo,

Pleasanton Mom is on here twice as much. Do you have a similar message for her, too? Or are you only opposed to those who dispel the lies?


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 4:17 pm

Janna is a registered user.

Pablo, is that all you've got? Obviously your reading comprehension has suffered as a republican. If that's all you've gotten out of my posts about my life, then your as stupid as you sound. I'm hardly living off you. My husband paid into EDD just like everyone else. But of course you think anyone who can't find a job must not want a job.

There's a line in a Bruce Hornsby song, "That's Just the Way it Is," that is really apropos for these times and reminds me of you. You're the guy in the suit:

"Standing in line, marking time, waiting for the welfare dime because they can't buy a job. A man in a silk suit hurries by and as he catches the poor old lady's eyes, just for fun he says 'get a job'."

Kicking people when they're down is obviously what you love to do. Sicko!


Posted by Pablo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 4:59 pm

Nurse Shark,

I do not hear Pleasanton Mom spending her time on here trying to game the system like Janna. Janna is for everything give away program there is but she is unwilling to contribute nor her husband but they are more than willing to complain about their favorite welfare programs going bye bye. Yes, I am sick of these lazy people doing nothing. I have only been in this country 5 years but I do work and work hard.


Posted by Pablo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:01 pm

Janna,

and by the way I am not a republican but did not vote but my wife did vote as did my son. They voted for President Obama.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm

Janna is a registered user.

Pablo?

So raising kids is considered lazy now? I'll be sure to spread message that around to all my mom friends. "Pablo thinks mothers are lazy and should get a real job." Would you like to include your phone number too or are you too cowardly?

What exactly am I doing to game the system? Please enlighten me or will you dodge that too Pablo? How is accepting unemployment benefits gaming the system? Actually, we qualify for a lot more benefits in our situation, but I've not pursued them because I believe there are probably people out there who need them more than me. I've chosen instead to rack up a lot of debt, sell things, and move a couple of times, but what do you care? In your eyes, I'm some low-life liberal who doesn't want to get anywhere in life. Is this how your mama raised you, without a heart or a soul?


Posted by El Chupacabras, a resident of another community
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:17 pm

Janna,

Clearly this dude is just trying to provoke you and divert your attention from the real issues.

Please don't bite. You seem smart, so stay cool and stay the course.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm

Janna is a registered user.

If you're not an actual citizen, then you should shut the hell up!!!! When you can vote, you can speak!!!!!

OK, being as vile as you sound is just gross. I think I might need another shower now after writing that. That is not how I actually feel for the sarcastically impaired.

How does your wife tolerate your intolerant views? Glad you feel comfortable enough in this country to put down people who were born here.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Janna is a registered user.

It's just hard to know there are people out there who think (don't think at all) that way. Especially people don't (won't) understand how low it can all go so fast.

Thanks El Chupacabras!


Posted by Pablo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:47 pm

Janna,

my wife believes the same as me and that is that people who do not work should not get paid. Your having children without working is very irresponsible and sets bad example for them. Aren't you concerned they will learn your lazy ways?


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 6:02 pm

Janna is a registered user.

So you assume that we had kids and were not working? Your inability to actually form a cogent thought is mind-numbing. You're too far gone for me to even explain something so simple. You've managed to not read my posts, or you just don't care. I'm not listing my children's ages, but suffice it to say they are not newborns. I know you're not afraid that you're son will be like you because he probably already is so he has no hope to be normal. My kids understand that daddy has been looking hard for a job and things are difficult for our family right now. You must be at least 50 but can't understand that. My kids are way smarter and more understanding than you could ever be.


Posted by Pleasanton Mom for Truth, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 21, 2010 at 6:09 pm

Janna, he's a troll. Don't bite!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Mar 21, 2010 at 6:16 pm

Janna is a registered user.

Sometimes trolls are fun! :-P


Posted by Oh, PM, a resident of Amador Estates
on Mar 22, 2010 at 8:52 pm

You seriously are going to go back over 150 years of history to point out what the Democrats use to support?

Let's talk about KKK members and their affiliations (REPUBLICAN). Or better yet, let's talk about all of the latest homophobic bible thumping Republican politicians who ended up being gay or admitting to an extra-marital affiar.

I hate higher ground acting Republicans. Just because you go to church, DOES NOT mean you are better than everyone else. That is how slave owners defended slavery and Hitler defended the Holocaust.


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