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It's back! Another 'Spare the Air' day for Tri-Valley, Bay Area

Original post made on Jan 5, 2010

The Bay Area Air Quality Management District has issued a "Spare the Air" alert for today, marking the fourth of the season and the first of the new year.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 6:06 AM

Comments (20)

Posted by bob123, a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2010 at 8:15 am

While I can appreciate the problems folks with respiratory problems have, my question is when did we transfer the authority over our lives to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who deem it within their power to tell everyone what they can and can not do?

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent"--Jefferson


Posted by PamE, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jan 5, 2010 at 8:50 am

Ditto to bob123. I have been thinking how can we make it "illegal"... that's crazy!!!

I can think of many people who wouldn't even KNOW when those days are...people who do not check the internet, or read a paper or watch local news, etc.

(Great quote by the way)


Posted by SteveP, a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2010 at 8:52 am

SteveP is a registered user.

More nanny-state bull extrement. These 'air quality' czars are a total waste of taxpayer time and money.
No doubt they are letting their new found power go to their heads....sounds like a certain Chicago community agitator.


Posted by Dominic, a resident of Del Prado
on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:28 am

We must stand up and elect officials to repeal this law and socialist / communist movement...people with respiratory problems should take personal responsibility instead of the society giving up freedoms for the sake of the few...This is an outrageous law in a state with forest fire season, officials are concerned with our burning a few logs...rediculous!

More wood, burn, baby, burn!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2010 at 10:10 am

Funny how republicans interpret freedom only as having the choice to spend their money how they want.

When our freedom is really infringed upon (i.e. using telecoms to spy on us by the Bush admin.) you never heard one peep from republicans about that. I guess they don't consider that an infringement on their rights. Strange that.

All of a sudden, your rights are being threatened by Obama trying to help the common guy. Want to know why we don't take you seriously when you say things like? That's it right there.


Posted by Shultz, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2010 at 10:16 am

I share the concern about these decisions being made by unelected officials. However, the companion problem is that the elected officials to often don't do anything productive, and all too often view their office as a means to pad their wallets.

This burning ban is clearly something that needed to be done. In fact, it should be broadened so that wood burning is banned at all times unless one has a federally-approved high-efficiency wood stove or fireplace insert (i.e. air-tight and with a catalytic converter). This "I don't give a c**p about my own health, my children's health, and especially my neighbors' health - I just want to be able to make love on my rug in front of a burning fire" is moronic. So, if you don't want unelected bureaucrats making these decisions, I suggest you first get you heads on straight, and then throw these parasitic bums in Sacramento out of office.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jan 5, 2010 at 11:44 am

I think somebody has forgotten to say, it's not socialism, it's communism...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

My recommendation is that those of you who just sit at home with tooooooo munchy time on your hands get more involved in local politics, stay busy, and keep on talking the talk.

A democrat was elected for good reasons and so much of what I read on this blog is nothing more than sour grapes. In my well thought out opinion, it time to moveon.com!

cheerio dearios....


Posted by Dominic, a resident of Del Prado
on Jan 5, 2010 at 12:02 pm

You have to be blind to believe that Obama is helping the common man. What Obama is doing is building a power base and setting up a command and control government...Complaining and stereotyping republicans when we have democratic leaders like Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, and Obama is just following blindly while they lead America off a cliff with all of the irresponsible spending...
I'll take wire taps any day in order to keep my family safe, while democratics move to give terrorists the same rights as American citizens and fight for their rights instead of American's rights and freedoms...

Secondly, if you believe burning wood in your fireplace is affecting others health, you probably have also bought into the second hand smoke danger that CA has so effectively advertised. I'd rather spend my time on things that really make a difference, one of those things is promoting personal responsibility instead of nanny state policies that have failed miserably in other countries...


Posted by bob123, a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2010 at 2:27 pm

Ah Janna and Cholo-- what has higher education done to your thought process!!
Let's not confuse freedom with politics-- one would hope ( however futile it might be ) that elected officals would want to insure that individual freedoms emodied that old piece of paper we call the Constitution would be preserved. When a government in the name of "saving the economy" takes ownership of banks, major corporations and tries to control the media, passes bills that are designed to "reform"heathcare that contain billions of dollars in corrupt buyoffs for votes, and talks about returning service men and women as being a threat to the country we(me/you) need to start thinking maybe , just maybe this is not the "hope and change" we wanted. I will not quibble about Repubs/Dems and who was/is worse but for gosh sake kids, let's agree that this new governemnt is heading us down the absolute wrong path.


Posted by Rat Turd, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2010 at 8:03 pm

I wonder how much we are paying for the BAAQMD to make great decisions like this? Did you know that we already have a governing body for our area called EPA Region 5? We did not like it so we set up our own organization and bet it costs a fortune to have them make great decisions like this. They actually drive around in CARS looking for smoke coming out of chimneys so they can issue violation notices in order to fund their salaries. Our idiot, wanna be football player Supervisor Scott "The Iceman" Haggerty created this monster.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm

Dominic,

I'm all for no nanny state. Let's stop having to give women permission through Roe v. Wade to deal with their own medical issues. That is the ultimate example of a nanny state issue. Then we can talk about wood burning, etc.

Actually, I thought it was lame for them to have Spare the Air days on the holidays. I don't, however, subscribe to the fundamentalists' idea that the resources and health of our planet are there to be used up as fast as possible during this lifetime. That just seems selfish and short-sighted to me.

Perhaps the eight years of alienation from my country during the Bush Admin. was just too much for me Dom. I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, even if you aren't. I seriously doubt he could ever make you happy, so why don't you stop complaining?

I'm not surprised you don't mind being spied on by your own country. I'm sure you'll be first in line when the airlines start performing cavity searches after someone gets something past the naked machines.

Stop living in fear.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:57 pm

bob123,

I don't recall putting my resume and education up for you to see. Let me guess, that was just a snarky way to imply that you assume that I'm a liberal elitist? Well, don't you think you're clever? Too bad you know nothing about me.

I absolutely disagree that we are going down the wrong path.

If you don't believe that our service men and women are suffering from PTSD, you're the one with the thought process issue. Maybe it's okay with you that a lot of service people come back and commit suicide as long as it enforces your idea that they would never hurt anyone here. I don't see how acknowledging the possibility that people can have mental breakdowns is a problem. Let me guess again, some how in your mind it shows a lack of patriotism towards our soldiers? Let me ask, if you don't know what the problem is, how can you fix it?

When a government, in the name of freedom, democracy, WMDs, Al-CIAda and Sadaam Hussein, invades another country and spends billions more than single-payer health care would ever cost, to bring freedom, democracy, eradicate invisible WMDs, the Al-CIAda, and hunt down Sadaam Hussein you know that's how we got where we are now and why it's such a catastrophe.

So I'd love to know what you would do if you were president? What decisions would you make. For the record, I am wholeheartedly against corporate welfare of every kind.


Posted by SteveP, a resident of Parkside
on Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 am

SteveP is a registered user.

Janna, Bob was very insightful and so are you---he was right and you recognized it---you are a liberal elitist.
You always think you know better than everyone else (like our govt) how we should live our lives. I don't want to play in your utopian sandbox. Leave the rest of us the hell alone.
I assuming your trailer in Dublin has no fireplace, so your position is meaningless.
You said 'stop living in fear'. Fear is what your are propagating with your 'killer chimney' smoke theory. Yeah, you're all for no nanny state.
Try to stay with the original article's subject and stop diverting attention to subject's like the govt addressing whether or not your mother should have had an abortion paid for with our tax dollars.


Posted by bob123, a resident of another community
on Jan 6, 2010 at 10:19 am

Janna

I wholeheartedly agree that our servicemen and women are in need of excellent care for whatever problem they may have ( 27 years in the military service backs that emotion and position) What I do find offensive is when the admin calls our returning members a greater threat to liberty than terrorists!

The whole debate is not about Bush or Obama--it is when do we stop letting our government invade our daily lives , remove self responsiblity and replace individual choices with governmental agencies and rules that impose limits and frequently if not most often require a small percentage of society to carry the burden of paying for these programs.

Never meant to offend you as to education etc-- and if I did then I am sorry.


Posted by NO Janna, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2010 at 12:10 pm

Janna,
you need to shut up and listen to bob123. He always has good advice and is not nasty about it like I would be. He makes more sense than you ever will and has proudly served our country. For that he is one of my heros.
Thanks bob123!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Jan 8, 2010 at 4:42 pm

bob123,

I don't agree that we are calling them a greater threat than terrorists. We're going to have to disagree on that.

I am all for government out of our lives, again Roe v. Wade. Let's get rid of that and then talk about everything else. I currently have no access to health care and my husband has not been able to find a job for over a year. Unfortunately, 2010 isn't looking any better. Would you also like government out of helping people by providing a safety net? If my husband wasn't receiving EDD, we would've been homeless along time ago. It's do or die for us at this point.

I appreciate your apology regarding the education comment.


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Jan 8, 2010 at 4:45 pm

NO Janna,

You are nasty and I will not shut up. Good luck trying.

StevePee,

Liberal blah blah Utopia blah blah.....any other talking points you'd like to add?


Posted by milissab, a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jan 23, 2010 at 5:17 pm

To all of you who think no burn days and spare the air is a load of crap.....

I have asthma. I was born with it. Wasn't my choice. I take medication every day. Picked up my son from school yesterday. Usually stay in the car, but it was raining so I went to get him armed with an umbrella. He's 8. Somebody had their fireplace going and I had an asthma attack.

I just went outside to watch my son shoot some hoops with his Dad and uncle. Somebody had their fireplace going. I had to run inside. Now I'm inside watching them from my window.

Being unable to breathe is hard to explain, but I'll try. It feels like you are dying.

Sitting by a crackling fire must be very cool. I wouldn't know. I can't breathe.

My son has recently been diagnosed with asthma. I want him to be able to play outside. I want him to be able to breathe.

Do you get it now?


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on Jan 28, 2010 at 5:20 pm

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Posted by Chris, a resident of another community
on Dec 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm

@milissab, you are the one who doesn't get it. You have asthma, it wasn't your choice - but it's not everyone else's responsibility either. Your arrogance and self-centered attitude are apparent in your post, "I, I, I, me, me, me". You clearly don't take issue with the pollution generated by your car, but you judge others for a winter fire? Take the steps you find necessary for your own comfort, but it doesn't justify placing more and more restrictions on everyone's freedoms.


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