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OPINION: Can local government save California?

Original post made on Jan 4, 2010

For those of us serving as elected officials and trying to make government more responsive, the situation couldn't be clearer: our system of government in California is broken.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:49 AM

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Posted by D W
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2010 at 10:02 pm

Say Yes To Transparency At All Levels, People! From Government To Health Services To Education To The Pulpit To The Airwaves, We Need Accountability Everywhere!


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Posted by Shadowbozo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2010 at 7:21 am

Government can't save anyone or anything. Whey do people think more government is the way to go? The former Soviet Union was thankful to throw off the yoke of an oppressive government. Do we really want that here in the US?

I prefer more local control as the article states. I just don't trust any level of government to get it right. I was a former "Government Employee" at LLNL. Talk about waste.


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Posted by Rick
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2010 at 3:32 pm

I don't know about the other two of you but Scott Haggerty is a joke to try and help us at the local level of any government anywhere. So I assume by the two of you being involved with him you must be clowns too or just political cronies. The people we need to get rid of our you all.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2010 at 3:44 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Web Link
"Ten Events That Shaped California State-Local Fiscal Relations

Blurred Line Between State and Local Resources
and Responsibilities
- Makes it diffi cult to know which level of government to hold
accountable.
- Leads to intergovernmental tension.
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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2010 at 3:46 pm

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This is what we get when every thing is put on a ballot. Direct democracy is great until a majority votes on something you don't want it to be touching. Has anyone seen the ballot initiative this year to end property and income taxation on those 55 and older? Why not just put something on the ballot to end all taxation? I'm certain a majority will vote on it!


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Posted by Rita
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm

Stacey,

I had not heard about that initiative is it true and if so what is the bill number?


I am not close to 55 but honestly I see nothing wrong with exempting seniors 55 and older from property and income tax. Afterall, they have been paying and working since they were probably 18. Seems fair to me that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2010 at 5:30 pm

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It is in circulation for signatures. Web Link

"1395. (09-0045)

Eliminates State Income and Property Taxes for All Residents 55 Years Old and Older. Initiative Constitutional Amendment.

Summary Date: 11/24/09 | Circulation Deadline: 04/23/10 | Signatures Required: 694,354

Proponent: Lee W. Olson

Exempts California residents who are 55 years old or older from paying state income and property taxes. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: Annual state revenue losses of $15 billion or more due to new exemptions on personal income and estate taxation. Annual local government revenue losses of $5 billion to $10 billion due to new exemptions on property taxes. (09-0045.) (Full Text)"


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Posted by Rat Turd
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2010 at 7:57 pm

I actually agree and believe it to be good for older people, seniors over 55 not to be burdened with paying those taxes as they are trying to retire and live on a fixed income. Afterall, they have paid for all of these years and now it is our turn to shoulder the burden.


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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:22 pm

Rick, a resident of the Another Pleasanton com types "but Scott Haggerty is a joke to try and help us... (then) you must be clowns too " does little good to move us forward towards solutions.

You have little idea what Supervisor Haggerty is trying to do, and little appreciation of his intelligence on this specific issue. I will grant that having an idea of approaching a constitutional convention for this dysfunctional state is an uphill challenge, but think of what Jefferson, Madison, et al faced in the later Sixteenth century, aka later Seventeen-hundreds...


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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2010 at 9:55 pm

I typically hate to copy & paste from the internet but I think that in this case a literal verbatim is important. I here-fore submit the following followed by my commentary:

Article I.

Declaration of Rights.

Sec. 1. All men are by nature free and independent, and have certain inalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property: and pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.

Sec. 2. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same, whenever the public good may require it.

And, Sec. 9. Every citizen may freely speak, write, and publish his sentiments on all subjects...

I present the (partial) Declarations of Rights of...

the Constitution of the State of California.

Web Link


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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Jan 6, 2010 at 9:56 am

oops

"...faced in the later Sixteenth century, aka later Seventeen-hundreds..." should have been 18th century. Sorry, up late.


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Posted by David
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 6, 2010 at 8:20 pm

It's the 2/3 requirement to raise taxes and Prop 13 that has enabled us to hang on by our fingernails so far. Without them, do you think you'd have more money in your pockets, a more efficient government, or less waste? Better too little government than too much. Stand up for your liberty, you don't need nanny government!


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Posted by rick
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 11, 2010 at 9:12 am

Dublinmike you must be a relative of that clown, he can't even watch a game without getting upset and acting like an idiot.


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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Feb 15, 2010 at 7:25 pm

rick, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, all I can write is... can you READ. Jeez...


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