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Senate Health Bill: Mandates Kill Jobs and Punish Poor Workers

Original post made by jimf01 on Nov 30, 2009

The dirty little secret of the Senate Health Care Reform Bill HR 3590

(Section 1511-1513, pages 346-357). Companies with more than 50 employees are required to offer qualified health plans. ..If a company has a lot of low-income workers, they can save money by dropping their health plan and just paying the $750 per-employee tax. (And they can make as many employees as possible part-time.) However, if they have mostly middle-income workers, they face a heavy penalty — $3,000 – every time they hire a worker from a low-income family.

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Killing jobs and hurting the poor, there are your Senate Democrats at work.

Comments (4)

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 30, 2009 at 10:16 am

Whenever I read post by you, I say to myself, consider the source and I moveon.com.

Nobody knows what will be in the final bill so cool you jets...as in give it a rest!

as if you care about the poor...


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Nov 30, 2009 at 11:10 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

Heh, that is funny because I usually do the same when I read a reply by you. But here you are answering me and I am answering you Mr C.

So my comment is worthless because I allegedly do not care about the poor? Whether I do or not, and whether you rape chickens or not doesn't matter, what matters is what is in the bills going into debate, the House and Senate versions, because some combination of the two will be up for vote, and if approved will be signed in to law by the President. And the result of all of this will shape the economy of the US and influence the result of the next elections in 2010 and 2012.
Now, when I try to give details of what is in there, someone will say, it isn't the final bill. If I post a poll, someone will reply that the American people are stupid or don't know what they are being questioned on.
All, and I mean all, of the latest polls indicate that the majority of Americans do not want health care reform as it is being offered up by the Congress right now. The issues, and what Americans want and do not want, should be debated now.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:10 pm

doesn't fly...I still say, CONSIDER THE SOURCE. A poll is a poll and just that, it is not definitive proof of anything. The debate will continue for awhile, any poll right now doesn't amount to much of anything but a waste of money.

Nobody is against debating but MOST AMERICANS don't like to be lied to or manipulated with words or numbers. I care if you rape a chicken because I like to eat chicken and I don't want to eat a chicken that you've raped. You are known to be biased, indifferent to the lives of poor people so there no reason that anybody should take you seriously.


Posted by judy, a resident of Danbury Park
on Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 pm

We have to talk around petty, ignorant, bigoted Cholo....just ignore him.
Actually, the UNintended consequences of a health care bill could do more immediate damage and could continue. That being the massive number of smaller employers across the country that are not going to hire...thus perpetuating unemployment and joblessness. Great numbers of those employers say the requirement of the additional expense per employee will cause them to 'hold off' hiring. Since there is zero stimulus for the independent employer, he'll just hold those positions 'open' and the economy will not 'grow'. IF only these political 'zealots' that made campaign 'promises' for you to pay, would consider the independent employer. But they couldn't care less about the damage they leave in their wake.


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