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Another Obama appointee apologizing for past actions

Original post made by jimf01, another community, on Sep 30, 2009

Chiming in to further the right wing smear campaign.

Kevin Jennings is the Director of the Department of Education's Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools and founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)

Web Link

To present opposing viewpoints on Jennings, I invite you to read the Family Research Council report: WHY HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVIST KEVIN JENNINGS
IS NOT FIT FOR THE DEPT. OF EDUCATION

Web Link <--PDF file download

And also think progress and their defense of Jennings

Web Link <-- thinkprogress.org link

Jennings has told several conflicting versions of a story about a boy who approached him for counsel when Jennings was a teacher at Concord Academy in Massachusetts in the late 1980's. Drawing facts from one or more of three separate accounts of the story, it appears that the boy may have been as young as 15, a sophomore, a substance abuser, very troubled, and finding adult male sexual partners in the bus station restroom in Boston. Yet Jennings apparently never reported these facts to the authorities, the school administration, or the boy's parents. The only step he took to protect the “safety" of this vulnerable teen was to say, “You know, I hope you knew to use a condom."

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Posted by poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2009 at 7:58 pm

JimF01,
Gotta love the copy/paste job this time around. All those control characters come out so beautifully. So since you're so up in arms about this and convinced that this man is going to hook all our teenage sons up with older men at the local bus station (like GOP Senator Larry Craig, perhaps? or GOP congressman Mark Foley, maybe? Or even evangelist preacher Ted Haggart even?), it's probably better to get both sides of the story.

Think Progress goes into detail about this man's distinguished career and how this is nothing but a smear campaign being run by the Family Research Council whose biggest gripe with the guy seems to be that he's gay.

Web Link

Enjoy.


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Posted by JimF01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 8:55 pm

And I cut and paste while you, as usual, make up things I didn't say or even come near, but that makes it easier for you to not respond to the actual issue, as usual.


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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:11 pm

So the question is then, do you think two (or four)wrongs make a right, or do you disapprove of Jennings behavior, or is it another one of those silly things that no one cares about?


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Posted by Annon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:14 pm

The ONLY issue here is that you Mr. JimF01 come off as holler than thou and stand in Judgement of everything and anything NOT radically RIGHT!

Get over your self. You're NOT awakening anything or any one here.

People are human and make mistakes. Very few public figures are free of error, but they serve our nation regardless.

If you are so pure and righteous, get your butt out there and run for an office.

All this Moral High Horse stuff is SO ridiculous, cause NO Man is Faultless!

What scres me most is that the majority of the radical conservative base that are freaking out, are so called Born again Christians, standing in an enormous amount of anger, hostility and Judgement!


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Posted by Jimf01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:22 pm

Nice rant, but some are aware it is not about me, it is about right and wrong, and it is about what we expaect from public servants, we can relax that standard, of course a President can get a BJ in the White House and lie about it to the American people, but some of us expect better.


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:33 pm

I just want to make sure I understand the rules for the forum. Bush is off-limits, but Clinton is still relevant to today's circumstances. Is that correct?


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Posted by Annon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:41 pm

I really think our society as a whole is WAY beyond "right and wrong"
being a measure of any public official, policy or agenda. Take a LOOK at what we were left with at the end of the Republican Era.
The Country WAS run by an Upstanding Christian man of principal and good moral values! Look where we ended up as a Country!

When you find me a human that is truly virtuous and infallible, DO let me know Jim.

"it is about right and wrong, and it is about what we expaect from public servants"

O.K. Jim, Back to reality here! If it is about right and wrong-we as a modern society were cooked long ago! Lets take a look at a Univeral "right and wrong" NOT just whats right and wrong for One Country! Humanity at large has been wronged by our preceived rights! Get it?


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Sep 30, 2009 at 9:57 pm

To the right, the Clenis is always relevant. Don't you know a BJ is worse than anything Bush ever did! The right is hung up on sex. They don't want anyone to do, but if they do they think they should be punished. They're the worst hypocrites of all.

All the right has is smears. They contribute nothing of value.


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Posted by Jimf01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 10:02 pm

Feel free to clarify your post if I have you wrong,but you have a problem with the war in Iraq? Is it a problem with going after the terrorist organization that attacked the US, or an issue with war in general? Either way I do not equate it with or mix it with personal morality, these are different


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2009 at 10:44 pm

JimF01,
Are you referring to Al Qaeda and/or the Taliban? Because they are in Pakistan and/or Afghanistan. Still.
How are things for the Iraqi people, now, anyway?


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Posted by JimF01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Quote of the year: "I really think our society as a whole is WAY beyond "right and wrong""
Clearly, as the after school video from Chicago shows this week, it is WRONG for that kid to not be wearing red clothing, but it is not WRONG to hit him in the head with a board and stomp him, because we are way beyond that.

And yes, I think that is indicative of where American society is going. And that quote brings it right out to the forefront.

Annon, when you ask me for "a human that is truly virtuous and infallible", it is what is referred to as a straw man. You build it up and knock it down in the same post, stop being ridiculous.
OK, then you advance the argument, maybe one tiny bit with this: "Humanity at large has been wronged by our perceived rights!" So that meant that what Bush was doing, which I call leadership, to fight islamo-fascism and free the Iraqi people in the doing, you call a war for oil and crimes against humanity. I get it. Feel free to start another topic and we can debate that.


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Posted by JimF01
a resident of another community
on Sep 30, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Stay Cool - you are asking me? I don't know, I am not there. But I guess everything is a bit better, since it is completely out of the headlines, now that we are starting to pull out of the cities.
How should we measure how things are for the Iraqi people? Are they living under Saddam Hussein? No. Did they conduct free elections? Yes. Coalition Military Fatalities? 2008 for July/Aug/Sep it was 13, 23, and 25, for 2009 it is 8, 7 and 9. Sounds a bit better. ISF fatality numbers don't sound quite as good, but they are taking up the fight.
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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2009 at 8:42 am

I don't know why he is apologizing. Democrats have no morals period...so why apologize for immoral behavior when that implies you have morals to begin with.

(Yes, some Republicans have strayed, like the SC Governor and Senator Vitter, but at least most Republicans have a moral foundation.)


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2009 at 9:23 am

!,
Do you *really* think "democrats have no morals, period?". I'm genuinely curious as to why you would make that statement.


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Posted by SteveP
a resident of Parkside
on Oct 1, 2009 at 10:04 am

SteveP is a registered user.

All of Kevin Jennings indisgressions are considered resume enhancements for Dems, hence his appointment to a position making our schools safe (from pedophiles?). Some Dems may have some kind of watered down morals, but certainly not the ones holding public office.
Imagine anyone right of center trying to obtain this position with Jennings credentials. At the least, they'd be labeled a hypocrite, because that charge is leveled at any Repub since they are held to a higher standard.
Problem is, we come to expect this type of thing from Dems, hence the fact this guy is still employed in a position in Obama's feifdom.


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2009 at 10:41 am

Do you guys come here to discuss points or just to slam liberals? If it's the latter, I don't really understand what you're getting out of it. Blanket statements about the morality of given political parties only leave you coming off as sounding like thoughtless and self-righteous. You must have more substance to offer than that.


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Posted by JimF01
a resident of another community
on Oct 1, 2009 at 11:27 am

I agree with you stay cool that ad hominem attacks like "Democrats have no morals period" hurt and do not help the argument. Just doesn't ring true, there are many respectable Democrats who are good people
When you have an issue with the moral judgments made in the past by someone who is now in a high place in the US Government, and those moral judgments pertain directly to the work he is supposed to be doing, working on the safety of school children, then we need to discuss that issue and not attack with, well, gee 'look what Sen Craig did', or condemn all Republicans because 'Bush got us into a war', etc etc.

When a school teacher learns that a young student of his is in this sort of trouble, being sodomized by strangers, and offers him only advice to use a condom, then I call his judgment into question. When that same person is named to a position in the US Dept of Education, and put in charge of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools, I don't need to be pure and righteous to make a judgment. I don't need to be a Democrat or Republican to make that call.
I can read that Kevin Jennings is a well known activist, started the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network in Massachusetts, and that his organization put on a conference in 2000 there, in which one of the breakout sessions included instruction for children on techniques of fisting. This is a portion of the distinguished career that PB mentioned above.
I can also read the foreword that Kevin Jennings wrote for the book Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling and read his 1995 speech in which he explained the strategy for promoting a homosexual lifestyle to schoolkids, "In Massachusetts the effective reframing of this issue was the key to success... We explained how homophobia represents a threat to students' safety...Titling our report 'Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth,' we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive."
I read that speech at I think that Kevin Jennings has devoted his career to installing this type of education in public schools in the US. I don't think I like this, but they say, you cannot say you don't like it, until you've tried it!


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on Oct 1, 2009 at 6:11 pm

I do not know why anyone is surprised as Obama is incapable, inexperienced, and a crook himself so why should we expect him to hold anyone to a higher standard?


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