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Teachers needs to watch what they say in class

Original post made by Proud American, Amador Valley High School, on Sep 17, 2009

Recently, my child came back from AVHS and told me that one of the teachers makes 'joking' statements like "Asians don't have any friends", "They eat rice every day", etc...

I feel very offended by such statements from a high school teacher in today's world. Is that teacher aware of what was said. He can be brought up on charges of being a 'racist' or at least insensitive to the asian population.

I am not identifying myself because I fear there will be retaliation on my child in terms of 'grade' in the class.

To the bloggers out there... 'is this racism?'

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm

If you're telling the truth, report the teacher to the principal asap. See what happens.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 17, 2009 at 8:27 pm

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Get your child to record it on a cell phone camera.


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Posted by Mom of 2
a resident of Mohr Park
on Sep 17, 2009 at 9:46 pm

Please report this incident to the principal. The teacher's statement is racist. Shame on him.


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Posted by Cara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 17, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Your child should write down those statements as best as she or he can remember, and date them. Your student should continue to write down and date any offensive statements. Call for a meeting with the principal, say it's for a personal reason. Tell the principal what you know, and that your child will continue to log offensive statements. Tell the principal you do not want the teacher to know that you talked to him about this. Say you just want the offensive comments stopped. We all know that many of the principals in the PUSD will patronize you and tell you that your student is 'sensitive' so that you will go away and leave them to their salaries. The fact that you have a written, dated list of statements should cause the principal to actually do something (what a concept!) tell the teacher to knock it off.


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Sep 17, 2009 at 10:33 pm

First of all I don't think a teacher can be brought up on charges of being racist.

Before you engage in any sort of action I would highly recommend (and maybe you have already done so) really finding out exactly what was said, and in what context it was said. As a previous post recommended having your child document exactly what was said and when it was said is an important step. I would also recommend talking to friends of your child to see if they heard the same comments.

I would then recommend meeting with the principal and discussing the issue and what you have documented.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Del Prado
on Sep 17, 2009 at 11:56 pm

I'm with Pleasanton Parent. You need to give some serious consideration as to the exact accuracy of the statements and the context, without which no claims can be asserted. Checking with other students will confirm if your student was hearing from an objective or subjective perspective. We all do it. I cannot believe that a teacher would be so blatant and insensitive.

Calm down and evaluate this after gathering more data.


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Posted by KNOX
a resident of Sycamore Heights
on Sep 18, 2009 at 8:03 am

So when a commedian is up on Comedy Central saying similar "jokes" while your High Schooler is sitting there watching such things....is that OK? OR when a young teen is listening to 50 Cent talking about "n***as" will you report 50 Cent? Will you report Comedy Central?

It's not racism. Is the teacher Asian? We all know when someone of their own race says something "racist" it's ok. Like Blacks can say the N word to each other but if someone of another race says it, then it's racism.

As if no one has ever told 'blonde jokes' or 'race jokes'. Or even watched movies with such stereotypes.

More horrible things come out of a teeneagers mouth than that teacher could ever say in front of his students.

I'm not saying your child is anything like that at all either.


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Posted by Parent of Two
a resident of Val Vista
on Sep 18, 2009 at 9:07 am

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KNOX,
You probably know this, but teachers are supposed to be TEACHING, not cracking jokes or making racially insensitive comments. I agree with the parents that recommend verifying what the teacher said with other students. If these things were said (even in a joke), then the teacher should be reprimanded.


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Posted by PUUUULLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEEE
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 18, 2009 at 10:03 am

Parent of Two,

Have you ever been in a classroom during actual school hours? It's amazing how many kids barely pay attention. That phone you purchased for your student lets them have a facebook mobile application that keeps them entertained through most of class ;-) If you think a teacher cracking a joke in class is reason for reprimand you should really attempt to get some practical reality.


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Posted by Parent of Two
a resident of Val Vista
on Sep 18, 2009 at 11:02 am

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A teacher cracking a joke in class is fine. A teacher cracking a RACIAL joke in class is not.

Sorry you're too caught up in trying to be witty to make that basic distinction.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 18, 2009 at 2:02 pm

This issue was brought up on another threat months ago. It was a student that reported the incident in the past. It seems that nothing was done then and not much is going to happen now.

It's the kind of comment that incites anger. Nothing more. time to move.com


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Posted by PToWN94566
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2009 at 2:37 pm

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"We all know when someone of their own race says something "racist" it's ok. Like Blacks can say the N word to each other but if someone of another race says it, then it's racism."

Knox believing in those types of statements are one reason why racist comments alive. It's never ok for any group to say such words, even if it's coming directly from that given group. Believing so only stigmatizes the situation, therefore the rest of the world knows it's not ok for us to do it, but it is ok for them to do it. The way I look at it, from my personal standpoint, is with the word "fag". I'm gay and have heard that word used many, many times by people in my own community. They think it's funny but I usually let such person know that if it's ok for you to use it, then expect other people to use it as well.

No matter the exact words were said, no teachers should be speaking like this in a classroom. If that is how he/she acts in the privacy of his/her home fine. Joke or not, it shows ignorance on the teachers part. I agree with what someone else said above- have the child record what the teacher says next time on a cell phone. It may be against school policies, but there have been times where students at other schools have done this and proved to the school that immediate action is needed.


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Posted by My Kids
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 19, 2009 at 12:59 am

"but teachers are supposed to be TEACHING"

That would be nice for teachers, yet they have to spend extra time taking attendance/tardies because parents couldn't be bothered to get their kids out of bed, or dealing with students using cell phones all through class because student must have them in case of some grand emergency, or dealing with kids who want make up work because they had to stay home because they were "really tired."



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Posted by Me Too
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Sep 19, 2009 at 1:04 am

I do always love the "fear of retribution" line though - yet I have never heard of anyone with actual proof of retirubtion.

For God's sake if you are that concerned for your child stand up and take it. I would certainly hope any student could overcome a lower grade in one class. Just imagine the lesson you would be teaching your child. Maybe the best thing they ever learned.

Instead we are saying, only do what is politically correct so it doesn't hurt your chances of making more money in the future. Honestly, what are we really telling our children. If you are that offended by the statements (which you have every right to be) you should scream it from the highest mountain and not worry about some stupid grade in a stupid class.

Do what you feel is right.


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Posted by hmmmm
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 19, 2009 at 9:07 am

Great points Me Too, Same mentality allows people to spread rumors by claiming they heard something they really haven't simply to pry information from people. The best learning experiences for my kids were from direct confrontation of issues in school and resolution that required them to set up meetings with Vice Principles and the Principle themselves. My wife and I were asked to attend and did, but really never had to contribute much input to solving the issue. Kids learned much more this way IMHO.


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Posted by Optimistic
a resident of Golden Eagle
on Sep 21, 2009 at 9:31 am

Guaranteed little Proud American went home and told mommy and daddy a complete exaggeration of what really happened in class. Give me a break.

I absolutely love it when people on Pleasanton Weekly try and tell teachers how to do their job. Most of you have NO idea what actually happens in a classroom, or how much a teacher preps for a class, or that maybe it is your student that is driving the teacher insane.

Get off your couch and get into a classroom to observe or help, and then tell me that you could be a teacher and do the job they do. THEN you can tell a teacher how to do his or her job. There is a lot more to it than simply "teaching", like most people say.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 22, 2009 at 9:25 pm

I DON'T BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING. THIS POST HAS APPEARED BEFORE AND WHAT IT DOES IS UPSET PEOPLE. IT HAS BEEN MADE UP.

IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON .COM!

Check out the kinds of posts that Proud American posts...like they say, consider the source!


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Posted by Another parent!
a resident of Foothill High School
on Sep 23, 2009 at 10:28 am

The teachers are usually tenured so absolutely nothing will be
done, but a slap on the wrist. And to those who think it doesn't
happen ... It occurs in all the schools and if is   brought to the
administrations attention the student will pay...throught snide comments
etc..... Parents can step in but it only makes it worse ... To those
that feel it is just missinterpeted.... Obviously, you haven't been a
student in todays climate!


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Posted by Stand up
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm

This is an opportunity for our children to step up and speak out...if they get a lower grade for saying how they feel then so be it.. its not the end of the world. Atleast your child will start standing up for their beliefs a thing that not many so even as adults.

Tell your child to approach the teacher with respect...

Mr. / Ms. So and So

I wanted to respectfully bring to your attention that I was offended by your comments and would appreciate it if you can refrain from making them in our class. If the teacher has a brain :) then he/she would comply, if they lash out then make your next move and bring it to the attention of the principal right then and there.. why wait...just tell the teacher i'd like to discuss this issue with the pricipal right now. The reason people get away with things of this nature is they always get empty threats call them on it...take a stand it is your right!!!!!!!!!But know that there may be consequences.


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