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Government workers need to take a financial hit just like non-government workers have

Original post made by mk on Jun 9, 2009

Very good editorial in the Sacramento Bee today on public employee unions. The city of Sacramento is having problems with the firefighter union but these quotes apply to all government workers.

"Given the economic crisis that all levels of government face, most state employees, county and other city workers are being asked to take one or two furlough days per month or a straight cut in salary. Private sector workers have had to absorb hefty pay and benefit cuts and layoffs. The city of Sacramento has asked its firefighters merely to delay a raise for a year, hardly a major sacrifice. Yet they have told the city "no."

Cities, counties and the state are in fiscal meltdown. Things are likely to get worse before they get better. Everyone on a government payroll, firefighters included, should be prepared to take a financial hit just as workers who don't work for government have been forced to do."

Comments (8)

Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 9, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Government has grown big in terms of spending money on government employees. Government at all levels... city, county, state, federal. Politicians and administrators in the government cave to these people.

I believe the numbers are 1 government job per 4 private sector jobs. Now, if the 4 private sector jobs can not support paying taxes into the 1 government job, there should be NO government job any longer.

So, why do government employees think they can go on and on, raking in their union dictated salaries and benefits? When the private sector is really hurting and no taxes are flowing into the government honey pot? So, lay-offs are coming.

Of course, the politicians will lay off the very service workers that you, the private sector citizen really wants to keep, over the union-protected worker. That way they manipulate you and convince you to pay higher taxes, which you cannot afford. Schwarzenegger is our current poster child behaving this way.


Posted by Mike, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2009 at 1:12 am

frank, as usual, you are right on target. Praise as well to the Sacramento Bee - great editorial.


Posted by City Employee Family, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2009 at 6:14 am

My husband is a civil servant for a nearby city, and I can honestly say that he has taken many furlough days through his 20 year career, and many years with no raises. They again are asking for furlough, which he will gladly take in order to keep his position and those of the men and women he has been working with for many years. My problem is that they are telling him he cannot utilize the hundreds of hours in vacation he has accumulated and not used to cover this time off. Shouldn't

I just wanted to say that it is the worker bees at these cities that keep it going, and not with huge "Pleasantonian" salaries. He sees much waste and has suggested consolodation, but to no avail. Sometimes these well educated individuals they put into management positions, do not really know what is going on out in the field, and make poor financial decisions. So we gladly take the "cut" in pay to save ours and others jobs, but please direct your comments to those that really need to take the hit, not the guys and girls you see working in your parks or on your streets.


Posted by Johnny, a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 10, 2009 at 7:10 am

We will never get anywhere in this state until we take on the 3 point retirement system. Nobody should be able to retire at age 50 with 96% of their salary for the rest of their life and 100% of their benefits for life with the taxpayers footing the bill. California is the only state in the nation with this rich program.


Posted by john, a resident of Valley Trails
on Jun 10, 2009 at 7:23 am

could be worse. talking to a guy from Germany - told him that here in Ca, we are effectively taxed at 45% He was astonished and asked me if we really get to keep 60%?


Posted by A Pleasanton Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2009 at 2:13 pm

I totally agree with the statement "Government workers need to take a financial hit just like non-government workers have"

At my previous company, employess are asked to take TWO WEEKS OFF EVERY MONTH so the company can avoid layoffs. As a worker of the private sector, you work 50+ hrs/wk on salary and there's no guarantee that you'll get a rise/bonus or even keep your job.

Those union-protected workers are asking for too much during this crisis. The unions need to take a step back and be more reasonable. Wouldn't it be "funny" if the government goes backruptcy 'cause the labor cost is too high? Look at what happen to American car companies!


Posted by Pleasanton resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2009 at 6:12 pm

"Nobody should be able to retire at age 50 with 96% of their salary for the rest of their life and 100% of their benefits for life with the taxpayers footing the bill. California is the only state in the nation with this rich program."

Why is this never attacked by the forces who claim if only this state had higher taxes, everything would be sunshine and rainbows? Seriously, how can any responsible citizen defend this?


Posted by Pleasanton resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2009 at 6:18 pm

"could be worse. talking to a guy from Germany - told him that here in Ca, we are effectively taxed at 45% He was astonished and asked me if we really get to keep 60%?"

Ah, but there's some subtle differences between us and Germany (and other high tax European nations that many here want us to emulate), first and foremost, the average citizen can see the benefits their taxes provide them, and then also you can't just move to these countries and get on the dole like you can here in the US. Try doing that as a US citizen going over there and see how far you get.

Now, that's not to say I agree/disagree with how they do things over there, just pointing out the "copy/paste" strategy of emulating their system won't exactly work the same here.


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