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TIME FOR A VICTORY LAP!

Original post made by Privatize, another community, on Jun 5, 2009

People of Pleasanton be proud. This week you stood up to the liberals who voted for Obama. You stood up to the liberals who voted for Nancy Pelosi.

NOTHING LIKE A LITTLE PAYBACK!

Enough is enough. NO ON TAXES! You defeated measure G.

But the work is just beginning. Avoid the calls to "volunteer" or "give what you can" to the so-called schools. You are only doing what the unions want you to do. Get a voucher program going. Start looking at home schooling. Groups of like minded people can form study groups. Private schools will be a more viable alternative if you got your tax dollars back. That's what vouchers will do!

Face it. Public schools are broken. Violence and drug abuse are on the rise. What passes for academics is more of a joke. Teachers can't keep order in the classroom, much less teach. Values are so far to the left of any community. It is OK to burn the flag. People are just monkeys. Its all relative. That's about all the kids learn these days. The answer isn't more of the same. The answer is get rid of them.

People of Pleasanton CA, we salute you!

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Posted by Did You hear that?
a resident of Beratlis Place
on Jun 5, 2009 at 11:46 pm

Every time there is a post by this person, all that is heard is crickets chirping. You can post this lame stuff as much as you want, but you will hear the same thing because no one cares.


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Posted by Privatize
a resident of another community
on Jun 6, 2009 at 9:10 am

I didn't know you loved taxes that much.


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Posted by NO ON G
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jun 6, 2009 at 11:06 am

Government spending needs to be cut at all levels. Enough is enough. Let's talk about cutting the rest of it.


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Posted by No Glenn Beck
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 6, 2009 at 11:57 am

Privatize, we are looking for real solutions, taxes or no--not Glenn Beck rants.


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Posted by Scott Walsh
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm

Privatize, what other solutions do you have besides cutting taxes and voting Liberals out and getting rid of "the monkeys." Something concrete, I am interested.


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Posted by Privatize
a resident of another community
on Jun 6, 2009 at 3:40 pm

Stop trying to fix a system that can't be fixed. Do not volunteer your time. Do not donate your money. Start investigating resources on home schooling. Pressure your politicians to get a voucher program started. I have posted many links.


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Posted by bobbi
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 6, 2009 at 7:00 pm

FYI Privatize, drugs are prominate in the private schools as well.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 10:32 am

Here is a copy of a comment from a teacher in ANOTHER district. This is what we are heading for with dumping the problem into the laps of the TEACHERS. The foolish people who think that they can't live without the measly $230 will be creating and inheriting a very distastefull place to live. I hope you spend that $230 on yourself. 25 kids in each K-3 classroom and no services -- great job No-On-G suckers. My kids bow to your perfect vision of the future paradise.

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I agree with your comments. I am a teacher and I am tired of being abused by parents and the kids. I bust my butt for these kids and all I get is disrespect. On average I work 12 to 14 hours per day and we don't get paid over time.

When I was growing up I had the fear of God put in me by my parents. I never had a teacher call home about me misbehaving because it wasn't tolerated and the punishment at home would be far worse than at school. Nowadays I call a parent and they blame me for their kids behavior. They tell me I am picking on their child. I invite them to my classroom to come and observe but they never show up. I fear for our future. Teachers are leaving the profession in droves. A lot of my friends left after two years. That was enough for them. There will be no one left to teach the future. We will fall further behind. Without an educated population we will not be able to compete globally. After 20 years of teaching I feel like quitting today( it was a seriously bad day- full of drama). Teaching wasn't like this when I went to school. It was an honorable profession and teachers were treated with respect and dignity. Things aren't getting better, they're getting worse.


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 9, 2009 at 11:07 am

So the voters said no to teachers getting raises at the taxpayers expenses when they cannot afford it and somehow kids bad behavior will fall into the laps of the teachers? Hmmmmmmmmm so you are saying the kids will act worse now that the teachers did not get a raise as G had absolutely nothing to do with guaranteeing class sizes.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 11:18 am

Not too long ago, a suggestion was made to put video cameras in classrooms during class time. This would have allowed teachers to have evidence of discipline problems in the classroom.
Teachers' unions were very opposed to this idea and claimed that doing this would violate teachers' privacy.
Maybe it's time to consider this idea again. Badly behaved students are not only a problem for the teacher, but a problem for the students who are trying to learn.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 12:26 pm

measure g had nothing do with class size? what a foolish statement. Would have raised 5M, a teacher costs 100k at the outside (more like 80 in most cases), we lost 100 teachers due to the budget shortfall. 5M would have brought 50 back. The other $$$ savings cuts are not the heavy hitters -- as it should be, i.e. most of the budget goes to the classrooms. While music, pe, counseling, etc would be decimated with measure g, class size would be closer to 20 than 25.

and no, I am not saying that no on g causes worse behavior, just that teachers have enough on their plates dealing with lousy parenting these days and having class size reduction in place mitigated that effect somewhat -- gives them a fighting chance.

As for cameras in the classrooms, I think that would fly when everyone would have a camera shining on them in their workplace. Anyone volunteering? Why should a teacher need evidence of discipline issue anyway, what motive would the have for saying there is an issue with a child to the kid's parent when there is really not an issue? You think that is an easy conversation to have?

Next school year is going to be so much fun. I just can't wait.


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Posted by parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm

According to the poster, there's problem with parents believing the teacher when the teacher contacts parents about student discipline problems. Cameras might make it easier for the teachers to get their point across to the parents who refuse to believe their kids can do anything wrong.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 1:21 pm

I think it is at the discretion of the teacher, if they want to film little johnny throwing a hissy-fit then have at it. I don't think there is any rule against that (but I could be wrong)...


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Posted by John Miller
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jun 9, 2009 at 1:35 pm

Anybody who thinks that failure to pass G will impact how the kids behave should have their head examined. Why do you think they put up fences around the schools years ago? To keep the kids on campus because they would leave and would raise hell around town. We will do fine without a few teachers. By the way, do the teachers who are still working still get their annual union negotiated raises? I bet the answer is yes and this is why the 100 low seniority teachers got thrown under the bus to pay for raises for the others.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 1:56 pm

get the facts Mr Miller, the step/ladder (which I agree should have been thrown under the bus) represented around 15 teachers(15 is less than 100 last time I checked). I would love to have seen that $$$ saved too but, again, we are still asking for the teachers to shoulder the burden -- one that really should be shared by the community. Instead we say (or, excuse me 37 % of us say) F-you.

Oh, and read the posts carefully, nothing was said about g-failure making kids behave worse than they already do.


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Posted by John Miller
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jun 9, 2009 at 2:00 pm

It is all there teacher and get over it as you lost.

NOTHING LIKE A LITTLE PAYBACK!

Enough is enough. NO ON TAXES! You defeated measure G.

Face it. Public schools are broken. Violence and drug abuse are on the rise. What passes for academics is more of a joke. Teachers can't keep order in the classroom,


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Mr Miller:

if you are ready for payback, keep this strategy up. By drying up all the public funding the US will eventually look like Somalia -- a place where home schooling is required BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS. Take a trip and see what your tax-free utopia looks like. I think you will love it.

BTW - I am NOT a teacher. I don't have the patience required to deal with foolish people.


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Deadringer,
Hopefully you're also not a parent.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Wow - why would you hope that? My kids are not foolish -- most of the time ;-)


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 7:15 pm

Deadringer,
Glad to see you can smile!
So if you weren't referring to the kids as the foolish people, then who?
Better for all to make a donation to the schools, volunteer as often as possible and everyone do their best to send kids to school prepared to learn and with a respectful attitude!


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Posted by Johnny
a resident of Danville
on Jun 9, 2009 at 7:20 pm

Deadringer!

I betcha real estate is real cheap in Somalia. We just need to hunker down and wait because Barack will help us out.......................no problem.


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 7:43 pm

well Johnny, in Somalia you probably would not get a title on any real estate purchase. One of those pesky government programs the folks over there don't pay for, like zoning, or roads, or police, or...

If the be-all-end-all is to not pay taxes to the evil civil servants or their evil programs, then that's what your world looks like.

Lets see some real suggestions about how to get class size back to 20:1, if people know how to save 9.7M to restore classroom funding then please tell the rest of us. Any takers?


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 8:02 pm

Deadringer,
Be a little patient. There are things happening that will help the schools.


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Posted by I know, I know
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2009 at 8:11 pm

deadringer -

I'm a taker for your ridiculous act of a know-it-all.

The APT takes a salary freeze = 1.5MM (addititive per year) over the next four years. We'll have 15MM in our pocket for CSR, etc.

If they did that, and if the Administration rolls back their selfishly voted in pay raise from last year, we should have plenty of money to run for years.

YAY! Problem solved.

Any questions?


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Posted by deadringer
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 9, 2009 at 10:24 pm

'YAY! Problem solved.'

I already said I was in favor of dumping step and ladder -- at least while the economy is on such shaky ground. That is 1.5 -- hardly 9.7. How much did the admin raise represent? Problem solved?

If the board said that in such a flippant tone they would be laughed out of town. The fact that they are taking serious consideration of the REAL budget still has them as targets to folks on this web forum. This stuff is not easy.


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