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Original post made by Moving past the election, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Jun 5, 2009

Can everyone please stop discussing the election itself? Posts about ways to support the teachers and schools, ideas about how the budget can be cut or fundraising - these are the kinds of things we should be focusing on no matter whether we supported or opposed G. The election is over, done, finished.

Enough already with the naming and blaming. It's especially ridiculous that so many of the people who post here anonymously feel so justified in personally attacking others who had the courage of their convinctions to post with their names.

The anonymous attackers don't have the support or respect of most posters.

Everyone in this online community should speak out against these attackers. Whether you agree with them or not, you should recognize that their behavior is disrespectful, cowardly and not what these forums should be about.

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Posted by Cesar
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2009 at 7:52 am

Moving Past The Election

We can post anything we want anytime we want.
If you don't like it don't read it.

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Posted by Pete
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2009 at 8:29 am

I agree with you Cesar people are talking this school teacher raise thing at the same time Obama is destroying our country at home and abroad.

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Posted by Confused Voter
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 7, 2009 at 9:41 am

If "The election is over, done, finished.", then why did Trustees Ott, Kernan and Hintzke in the June 3 Board meeting (less than 24 hours after the votes were counted) pound the drumbeat for a Parcel Tax '2'?

Seems they want to keep the 'election' going. And so, by the nature of politics, so will the 'opponents' who want excellence in our schools. Fiscal Excellence and Teacher Excellence.

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Posted by Confused Voter
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 7, 2009 at 9:44 am

Moving past the election -

Looks like you are an 'anonymous attacker' as well. Thereby without 'support or respect'. Therfore, I'll speak out against you.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2009 at 10:36 am

Moving past the election, We may have voted differently on the parcel tax (no need for you to say), but I'm wholeheartedly with you on focusing the energy on the board and getting to solutions. I didn't consider the measure's failure a win, just an opportunity to get it right for all children and teachers for many years to come.

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Posted by Mom2
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:09 pm

What about the children who are entering school this fall; the won't have the "opportunity to have it right." Watching 4 extremely talented young women receive their final lay off notices on Friday didn't seem "just right." Knowing K-3 students are going to be in classes of 25-1 and combination classes doesn't seem "just right." Having teachers switch grade levels to accommodate for the changes in class size doesn't seem "just right." Knowing there will not be a bands and strings program next year doesn't seem "just right." While the adults in this community are trying to "get it right" or prove they know better than our elected officials, next year's children will not have a "just right" program. They can't repeat the first grade experience, next year is their year. You say you have grandchildren in PUSD. Just curious, are any of them in grades K-3 next year? These measure went down because of the "misinformation of this very blog." Parents and community members are now "shocked" that the schools will truly change for the 09-10 school year. I think the 10-11 school will bring class sizes up to 33-1 throughout the grade levels. The state isn't going to stop cutting education because Californians like don't want to pay more taxes even if our schools completely fall apart. Your only answer has been to cut teachers' wages. Do you have any more ideas?

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Posted by Praying For You
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:21 pm

The real truth is that you don't want any suggestions. You have a closed mind and a heart full of hatred! That's all you are about.

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Posted by Parent
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:24 pm

How exactly Kathleen do you intend to do that? I'm interested.

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Mom2, I think where we differ is that I don't believe 25:1 or even 30:1 is the end of a great education for current students if you also believe in the dedication of the teachers and parents.

Yes, my grandchild is in K-3. Please tell me what misinformation was used; the opposition is accused of this consistently without anyone citing what it is.

I indicated past raises were unsustainable, certainly. I know freezing S&C for 09-10 is enough to save class size reduction. I've suggested steps for going forward that you can find on other threads (where to donate, how to set sound fiscal policy). I'd say I'm for changing how teachers are compensated (not the least of which is ending retiree health benefits), but not necessarily pay cuts if they can be avoided. I've indicated that senior administrators should drop car allowances and contributions to their retirement vehicles ($10,000 for some) for one year as well, and lunches and conferences too.

I've said that had the ballot language suspended raises for the life of the tax, it probably would have passed. Teachers have the ability to save their own. It's a choice they still have. The Board, contacted ahead of their vote about the language, chose to move forward without that change on the recommendation of their consultant and staff. Again, it was their choice. To not support their choice was my choice.

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Posted by Pete
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 7, 2009 at 2:12 pm

Mom2, here is a suggestion and source of revenue for the schools. Why don't you put as much effort in getting eliminated the 3 point retirement system which is bankrupting the state even if everything else was right and it isn't. We will never been able to afford most things as long as this retirement program is in place............period.

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2009 at 2:53 pm

Parent, Missed your comment. I wrote some of it already to Mom2. I've mentioned any COLA provided by the state in the future must have a percentage (1-2%?) put into a reserve until it hits a certain percent (7-10%?). Once the reserve goal is reached, I would suggest any raises to employees consider an off the schedule amount (a bonus in the best years that doesn't cripple future budget years) and that any use of the reserves kicks the formula back in for restoring it to the full percentage. If you allow a car allowance then you don't get mileage. If you negotiate with the unions, there is no me too. If you get a percentage raise in your contract with a satisfactory evaluation, you don't get the me too. (Maybe bonus years can apply to all.)

As to fund raising, I have seen campaigns that do not include dinner or lunch events work well (huge mailings of slick invitations and other related expenses is money that could be donated instead). I've seen where someone hosts a coffee or cocktail event in their home to raise money. PAPiE has received millions in very targeted campaigns of this nature. Right now, checks are being dropped off at schools, the district, and PIE with no coordinated effort or goal.

I'd be interested in your thoughts too.

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