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How to Save Class Size Reductions

Original post made by Jennifer, Pleasanton Valley, on Jun 5, 2009

PPIE should start a restricted, donation drive directed at the elementary school population. The money raised would only go to class size reduction.

If PUSD only needs $1.6 million to get the class size reductions to 20:1, surely elementary school families can reach into their pockets for $200, $300, $500 to make that happen. With 9 elementary schools, it only takes a little from each family to get to the 1.6 number.

I don't know why PPIE hasn't thought of this.

If you think this is a good idea, call PPIE directly at 846-5620 and let them know.

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Posted by Privatize
a resident of another community
on Jun 6, 2009 at 3:45 pm

Don't do this. You're just throwing good money after bad. Vouchers are the answer. Let's put these schools out of their misery. Let's look at home schooling. Let's start teaching family values for a change.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 6, 2009 at 5:48 pm

People have mentioned PPIE on the thread about raising funds. I believe the support for this is possible, but I noticed in the comments that there are people on that Board that need to step down, anyone on the Board, but someone did mention the superintendent . . . Web Link Maybe Luz (district CBO) would be a better representative.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Castlewood
on Jun 7, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Are you sure there's nothing personal going on with you and the Superintendent- it sure sounds like there is?


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 7, 2009 at 5:52 pm

Parent, Come on already. I posted what others have said about donating to PIE in regard to the supt . . . I'd extend that to the board members (Chris Grant).


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Posted by jay
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2009 at 10:54 pm

The unions are to blame for Class size reduction going away. If the union was really "for the kids" and not "for the teachers", they would have put a freeze on step and column raises. Since you state that CSR can be saved with $1.6M, the raises that the staff will receive this year of $1.5M would just about pay for that. Add to that the auto allowance and CSR is completely saved!


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 8, 2009 at 11:00 am

Not only the unions- the people who voted no or didn't bother to vote are also to blame.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 8, 2009 at 11:33 am

Parent, what is it you do not get about the vote? We just spent $350,000 to hold a special election to sneak it by and it failed because people do not want to take their hard earned money and have it applied to teachers raises. It has nothing to do with the kids at all and you know it if you read the parcel tax in detail as it does not guarantee a thing other than more money for S and C. If it comes up again and I doubt it will it will go down in flames again without significant reductions.


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Posted by Russell
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 8, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Mary,

I'm not so sure another wouldn't pass. San Ramon's first parcel tax failed, the second passed a year later. The same could happen here. No one is talking about putting Measure G up for a vote again (though I wouldn't be surprised to see it get more yes votes a second time). The language could be changed, marketing approach could be changed. 62% voted in favor.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

Russell, I believe the image of the PUSD and teachers union really took an image hit in this last measure and it will be some time before it recovers. I believe the 62% was only attained because it was the only thing on the ballot and if attached to another ballot would have failed by a larger amount. The citizens of Pleasanton will not accept another $350,000 thrown away.


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Posted by Karen
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 8, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Mary,

I think you are giving the "no voters" too much credit. Sure, they were out in force on election day, primarily because they knew they were outnumbered. I've spoken to a lot of people -- namely, parents with kids in school -- who now regret never getting to the polls that day to vote "yes". They assumed the parcel tax would just pass, that the "citizens of Pleasanton" valued education enough to pass it. If there is any anger at this issue, it is aimed at those who did not get to the polls, not PUSD.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 8, 2009 at 2:04 pm

Karen, maybe but by the same token since it was the only item on the ballot it seems the people who voted were either big in favor or big against and took time to go and vote that is why the turnout was not as high as one would expect. My next door neighbors did not vote because it was not a statewide or national election and felt it would not pass and were surprised it even got as many votes as it did. They were going to vote no.


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Posted by LK
a resident of Jensen Tract
on Jun 8, 2009 at 6:34 pm

I have a neighbor who assume that not voting was the same as voting No, so she did not vote. The district went for this costly special election knowing that there would be less No votes. The assumption was on a single issue ballot that they could get people out to vote for a tax for the schools and those who did not support the tax might not even think about voting.


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Posted by Karen
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 8, 2009 at 7:34 pm

We've gotten off track now. Yes, there were people who weren't against it but weren't all that eager to dig into their pockets for the money, either, who didn't vote. But there were also busy parents who did not find the time to get to the polls to vote. I know some of both.

The point is that now Pleasanton will have the WORST K-3 class size of any city in the Tri-Valley (Dublin, Livermore, and San Ramon). Not only that, it will have fewer counselors, reading and math specialists, and library and technical support staff per student compared to the other cities. And to add insult to injury, Dublin, Livermore, and San Ramon ALL HAVE PARCEL TAXES. I suppose now I know which community supports education.

Please, people, this thread is for those who want to provide ideas on how to save CSR, not those who want to rant and rave about PUSD.

Anyone know if it would be best to go through the PTA? They have pull with PUSD, and would be an organized way of distributing any contributions. (The PTA at our school actually paid part of the salary for the music teacher this year.) Any chance to get some kind of district-wide PTA meeting?


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Posted by Alee
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm

Karen-
I don't look at communities that support parcel taxes as "supporting education" more than anyone else. They are basically just supporting the act of floating more money to sometimes irresponsible school districts. To me, a community that supports education is one that lets people use their own tax dollars to choose which school they would like to send their children to. A community that supports education is also a community that demands accountability from their district. A lot of people who supported the tax in Pleasanton are people who do not care about shaking things up and restructuring, rather letting things stay exactly the same.


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Posted by Privatize
a resident of another community
on Jun 11, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Alee,

"shaking things up and restructuring, rather letting things stay exactly the same."

You ought to be ashamed of yourself. What's to restructure? The only good public school is a closed public school. Violence, chaos, total lack of respect, students who can't read and write and teachers who can't teach. The only thing we should do is shut them down. Why do you say "sometimes"? Tell me, have you ever seen a responsible district? Tell me all about it...

Get your act together.


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2009 at 12:19 am

Privatize,

Wow...your so used to picking on everyone, you don't realize it when you have a friend in front of your face.

Alee wrote, "To me, a community that supports education is one that lets people use their own tax dollars to choose which school they would like to send their children to."

Hello? Sounds like VOUCHERS to me.

"Get your act together"


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Posted by Alee
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 12, 2009 at 10:06 am

Privatize-

I agree with vouchers. Privatization is the only answer to fixing our schools. I was merely stating that people who want to keep feeding our schools tax money are interested in preserving the status quo. They don't want to imagine things any different than they are now.


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