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Building a vibrant downtown

Original post made on May 27, 2009

Despite a recession and growing competition, downtown Pleasanton appears to be weathering the economic storm and, in fact, gaining momentum.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:00 AM

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Posted by Scott Walsh
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on May 27, 2009 at 8:58 am

Jeb's "Vibrant Downtown" article is encouraging. I was wondering if Domus could be turned into a youth center of some type. We need somewhere for kids to drop-in. It could have a refereshment/eats component and maybe video games. I know Cindy has been talking a long time about a youth center-maybe this might be a good location. Kids have money and it might benefit some of the downtown merchants. Just a thought.


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Posted by lifelong buddies
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on May 27, 2009 at 9:21 am

It's exciting to see so many new businesses open downtown and we plan to support them. But last week we were very discouraged to see the Tully's patio area just trashed by the 'kids' who have taken over that area on Friday nights. Trash and litter, yelling and screaming, foul language, skateboards and scooters slammed down on the patio and bricks. Then to top it off, the religious fanatics from last year were back, exercising their first amendment rights and making everyone else miserable. We were a captive audience just trying to have dinner. A very unPLEASANTON experience.


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Posted by downtown patron
a resident of Downtown
on May 27, 2009 at 9:50 am

I agree with "lifelong buddies" about the kids who take over the Tully's area every afternoon and evening. Where are the "responsible" parents? They allow their kids to hang out, many of whom are in grade school or middle school, for hours on end. The kids rarely patronize the merchants, they just take over the chairs and are a menace to everyone with their skateboarding. The building owner has every right to ban the skateboards but they will not, they are just not interested. I have personally contacted the owner and have gotten the "gosh, we had no idea that was happening" reply. Well the police sure know it so why the owner refuses to clean up the problem is anyone's guess. It hurts the merchants who are trying to survive. Coldstone is the only one that benefits from those kids.

As for Scott's suggestion to use the Domus space for kids -- are you willing to pay the insurance costs for that use? Because you must know that the Pleasanton parents would be the first to hire an attorney to sue if their unsupervised kid got into trouble. I can see it now, the same parents who provided alcohol for a party at their home in Ruby Hill, and charged the kids for admission, could run the youth center refreshment concession. The landlord should probably lower the rent to get a tenant but the property does belong to him and under city code he can let it sit vacant rather than rent to a youth center and accept the risk. Look at how the kids act at Tully's and ask yourself why any landlord would invite that behavior in their building.
As for the religious fanatics, I personally think their "freedom of speech" has gotten out of hand. But I admit that I would rather be amused by them than sit outside at Tully's and listen to the language of the kid mob that takes over every day.


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Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 27, 2009 at 5:04 pm

Not so fast... There may be new businesses opening up, but that's because they haven't been here long enough to realize what the challenge is ahead of them here :) I'm in touch with many merchants and just an example, Studio 7 who has been here for years and expanded a few years ago has just recently "downsized" because the reality is, the improvement, if any for most isn't enough to sustain many. That is why those new businesses now have room to "Move In." Someone had to throw the towel in to make room for them. Let's see how long the "New" merchants hold the course. I hope they are able to sustain the lack of purchasing that still has merchants looking at a loss.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on May 31, 2009 at 7:19 pm

Lower your prices merchants and perhaps residents will spend a few pennies...hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

signed,

The Party of NO!


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Posted by Lover
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 5, 2009 at 12:33 am

In response to lifelong buddies comments about the kids who "have taken over" the area outside of Tully's. Would you rather they were drinking in someone's house when their parents are out, or smoking pot under the Main Street bridge, or even going around Pleasanton slashing car tires? Also, why would the building owner ban kids from hanging out outside a local ice cream shop that relies on the business? Skateboarding is not against the law fyi.

Do agree with you, however, about the religious nuts.

To downtown patron: What a bold claim: parents in ruby hills providing alcohol to kids and charging them admission. That statement, if true, would be enough to send them to jail. Think about what you are actually saying before you type.


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Posted by Lover
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 5, 2009 at 12:45 am

In response to lifelong buddies comments about the kids who "have taken over" the area outside of Tully's. Would you rather they were drinking in someone's house when their parents are out, or smoking pot under the Main Street bridge, or even going around Pleasanton slashing car tires? Also, why would the building owner ban kids from hanging out outside a local ice cream shop that relies on the business? Skateboarding is not against the law fyi.

Do agree with you, however, about the religious nuts.

To downtown patron: What a bold claim: parents in ruby hills providing alcohol to kids and charging them admission. That statement, if true, would be enough to send them to jail. Think about what you are actually saying before you type.


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Posted by Downtown Supporter
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm

Downtown has to be a place where everyone can be social together. The owner of the Tully's shopping center does care about the teens and the noise. He has been working with the PD and the city to deal with situations that come up around his property. He actually tried to get the city to pass an ordinance that eliminated the use of skateboards on downtown sidewalks. I think it is important to note that this issue of teens at Tully's isn't about the teens, but about the behavior. Poor language or rude behavior shouldn't be permitted at any age. What can we do as patrons to help solve the problem? Maybe we need to be more vocal. Ask the teens to watch what they are saying. Ask them not to skate around us. Teens need a place to hang out and downtown should provide them some escape. In addition, it would be nice for us to figure out a way to get the religious fanatics off the street corners in downtown. I have little kids and I don't appreciate these people yelling about our imminent doom to hell, especially if you happen to be gay. Just not appropriate.


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Posted by lifelong buddies
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jun 8, 2009 at 8:43 am

Thank you, Downtown Supporter, for being a voice of reason. The intent of my earlier comment was - as you said - to say it's not about the teens hanging out at the Tully's patio, it's about the BEHAVIOR, which is just unacceptable. We have been vocal, and try to do so in a straightforward way (not angry). And we have even picked up their trash. Skateboarding should not be allowed on the patio area at all, and signs should be posted. And Coldstones, Tully's, High Tech Burrito employees should get out there more often and clean the tables too. Yes, we need to be more vocal. They may not like it, but maybe they'll think twice the next time they throw their trash on the ground.


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