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CDE press release on Governor's upcoming cuts to public education

Original post made by Tony E., Pleasanton Meadows, on May 16, 2009

Schools Chief Jack O'Connell Decries Proposed New Cuts to Public Education Governor's May Budget Revision Cuts Billions from Public Schools

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 16, 2009 at 11:51 am

Not a surprise to see Jack and Arnold posturing during an election. How about we cut the state department of education or reduce to regional offices of education and not one in every county. Just like Measure G, there are other solutions to budgeting issues that don't have to impact our schools or our pocketbooks.

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Posted by Tony E.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 16, 2009 at 12:43 pm

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Whether they're posturing for the success of Propositions 1A - 1E or not, a minimum $3 billion in additional cuts are going to happen. That's if the posturing succeeds. $5.4 billion in additional cuts if posturing fails. Unless, of course, the State Legislature comes up with a few miracles and can agree on what those miracles look like.

The Governor's new budget: Web Link

Have a good afternoon and stay cool.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 16, 2009 at 1:24 pm

Tony, I get the implications of the threats, be it 1A-1E or Measure G. Again, the conversation needs to be about living within their means. And the state won't have a budget by June; they haven't made that deadline in years.

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Posted by Carl
a resident of Country Fair
on May 16, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Tony - what do you recommend for how to deal with the state of California's $3B or $5.4B additional cuts in education funding? Stay cool? You're just repeating the "Doom and Doomer" messages of the Governor.

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Posted by Russell
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 16, 2009 at 2:05 pm

"Again, the conversation needs to be about living within their means"

Its not like we're spending it on things like medicare or social security. That is truly throwing away money. At the federal level that is the whole story. We need to be cutting COLA and benefits for seniors and increasing our spending on education. Social Security and Medicare are wrecking the federal budget. I have already posting links on this forum showing that.

Increased spending on education at all levels can lead to better outcomes. This is most true at the college and post-graduate level where the schools with the largest research budgets have the best reputations and provide the best education. Look at any of the respected guides to competitive colleges, and budget level is always an important category. By the same token, decreased spending ruins schools. Just look at what happened after proposition 13 passed. California used to have some of the best K-12 schools in the nation.

Let's have the courage to raise taxes and not hide behind worn out Reagan-era slogans. If we want the services, we should be prepared to pay for them.

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on May 16, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Russell: Here is one source of information on the lack of correlation between spending and achievement. It's been posted before, so maybe you already reviewed it: Web Link The Wall Street Journal article on another thread here is another good read. Others are P J O'Rourke's book "Parliament of Whores" and again "Outiers" by Malcolm Gladwell. Each of these speaks to a different piece of the puzzle.

Prop 13 was the wrong solution to a real problem. So is Measure G. The lesson is, define the problem, determine all the solutions available, decide on the best of those possibilities, then act. It takes a lot more work than saying "ooops, we're low on cash, raise a tax." A lot more work. I think all government entities are about to find that out.

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Posted by Brittanicus
a resident of San Ramon
on May 16, 2009 at 3:11 pm

The invasion of illegal immigrants into the state of California, has much to do with the monolithic budget meltdown. Learn the truth from City councilor Andronovich stated that $ 11. billion can be attributed to every illegal alien, who breaks into America, get a free lunch on the taxpayers in Los Angeles county. That's just Los Angeles? What about the rest of the state? How about the taxes extracted from every American, throughout AMERICA? My concern and thousands of other citizens and legal residents is how many---ILLEGAL ALIENS---are voting in elections, when no governmental ID is needed to prove immigration status. Simply recognize that California is a---SANCTUARY STATE---and by removing millions of illegal immigrants and their families will assist on balancing the budget.

So vote---NO--on all propositions as you are supporting parasite businesses that hire illegal cheap labor. The Liberal Assembly in Sacramento has allowed foreign labor to settle here and now the Piper must be paid. Taxpayers are unknowingly paying billions of dollars in State benefits to underwrite education, health care, housing and other benefits and now has the highest taxes in the nation? If we don't draw the line now--the politicians will keep drawing more and more blood from us, in the form of raised taxes. Demand a permanent E-Verify workplace extraction tool now. Learn more at NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIALWATCH.

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Posted by Russell
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 16, 2009 at 3:30 pm

I posted a critique of the pleasantonparceltaxinfo article already.

I hope all government entities aren't going to be cut. I think some federal programs are woefully underfunded, and are doing and excellent job. The NSF was one example.

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Posted by Tony E.
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 16, 2009 at 3:36 pm

Tony E. is a registered user.

Kathleen, I don't think the Governor is threatening. He's clearly demonstrated that he's willing to cut whatever it takes.

Carl, what would I recommend for dealing with the state of California's $3B or $5.4B additional cuts in education funding? I can only say what I am doing which is:

1) Writing the Governor, my State Senator and Assembly person to plead with them to not grid-lock again for months while the State dances to the edge of the financial cliff without a budget. That they make education a top priority.

2) Supporting a local school parcel tax which circumvents the Sacramento budget process and keeps these generated funds here.

Is this a prefect plan? Probably not. But it's all I can think of to do at this point given the enormity of the problem.

Oh, and by "stay cool", I meant the temperature outside. Man it's hot out there today :)


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 16, 2009 at 3:48 pm

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Stanford U, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the LAO... Many groups have studied the problems with education funding in California and the way the State wastes money on it. All have suggested reforms. None so far are being considered. We don't need redundant categorical programs with their administrative overhead.

The State props are an attempt by the legislature to continue status quo. Voters are fed up with that because the status quo sucks. We want reform. The system has to break first in order to get fixed.

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