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Heritage group seeks to preserve downtown's character

Original post made on Feb 21, 2008

There are a number of architectural hints to the history of downtown Pleasanton. The Pleasanton sign on Main Street, the 19th century buildings that dot the downtown and the victorian, craftsman, colonial and cottage-style homes that surround it are among them.

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Comments (7)

Posted by John Smith, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Feb 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Doesn't the City already have enough professional review (red tape) processes in place??? Do we really need a group of un-trained people to offer opinions on what looks good or not??? Who are they to say??? Sounds like a bunch dramaseekers with too much time on their hands medling in others property owners business - causing additional costs, confusion and delay....


Posted by John Smith, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Feb 21, 2008 at 2:49 pm

Doesn't the City already have enough professional review (red tape) processes in place??? Do we really need a group of un-trained people to offer opinions on what looks good or not??? Who are they to say??? Sounds like a bunch dramaseekers with too much time on their hands medling in others property owners business - causing additional costs, confusion and delay....


Posted by Beth, a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 21, 2008 at 5:00 pm

John,

I'm sure your Ruby Hill homeowners association has something to say everytime anyone does significant work on their home. This is the same thing, but for the downtown and I for one welcome their input as concerned citizens.

So sorry you think professional review = red tape...


Posted by John Smith, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:26 pm

Beth, I knew going into Ruby what to expect from the HOA, they have very CLEAR rules and guildlines. (What rules are we to follow with this new group??? And I hear they are already voicing opinions on projects!) So clear (the ruby rules), the city barely looks at projects from a "planning" dept. standpoint - In and out 2 weeks! As a downtown property owner as well, the last thing I want, is one more added "group" telling me, owner of my property, how to do this and that with no formal rules or guidelines. They somehow have the ear of the city, (because they have to listen...) they should be made to follow the same rules as the general public and not be given ANY special treatment! (Sending plans back and forth via email/PDF may even violate copyright laws) Make them go down to the counter like the rest of us! They tried to start this group (some of the same members), some years back, it fell apart, hopefully this one will too. The city, has its faults, but overall, they do a really good job and are trying even harder, putting together groups, such as the CSRT, to battle exactly what we as property owners down here have to deal with. Let the city planners do their job, dont let a single voice at the planning commision or council throw a project in the fire. (Oh and they should spend some more time on the mayor's definition of a bird-foul-duck whatever it was too.) It gets that bad... As soon as you try to develop a property whether a simple addition or new construction you will soon see how difficult (it can be) of a city it is to get anything done in... Dont get me wrong I have lived here ALL MY LIFE and plan on staying for good doing what I do... Because the city listens to everyone and tries to please everyone most every project goes into a design review or turns into a PUD, this is simple stuff that could be done "over the counter" in most cities - like in livermore for example. Minutes instead of months! Give me rules up front and I will play by them, dont come in late in the game (after spending lots of time, money and effort with design professionals) and change them up... Respectfully, John (not my real name) Smith


Posted by John Smith, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Beth, a ps. I grew up in Del Prado. Lived there for 20 years, still remember walking to Alpha Beta (Now Genes) for food and getting a single OR a double ice cream for 5 cents from Thiftys. (Triple was 10)(Now Rite-aid) I love this town and have faith in the planning dept that they, and they alone (or recognized groups with rules) can do their job....


Posted by Shelley, a resident of Downtown
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:41 pm

cross-posted in UPDATE: Superior Court judge delays final ruling on Oak Grove (Web Link)
"As a downtown property owner as well, the last thing I want, is one more added "group" telling me, owner of my property, how to do this and that with no formal rules or guidelines."
"It gets that bad... As soon as you try to develop a property whether a simple addition or new construction you will soon see how difficult (it can be) of a city it is to get anything done in... "
--I hope you're not an Oak Grove opponent given these statements.


Posted by Here we go again, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Feb 22, 2008 at 2:51 pm

It seems as if little gets done in our city through the approval process of the plain old City Planning Dept. Every project has to go to some adhoc committee of people with too much time on thier hands that seem to hide behind "we care about our city" and make up rules that are in most cases rediculous to comply with. I am a Downtown Business owner as well, and someday, maybe just someday the city will ask business owners _directly_ what they like or dislike about doing business downtown, what is needed, and the realities of running a small business in today's economy.

Instead we seem to prefer to hire consultants (from who knows where) to come in and tell us that everyone is happy and everything is perfect and dosen't need to change.

Don't get me wrong. As a resident of Pleasanton I LOVE Mainstreet. As a business owner there is a whole lot lacking. Look around the tri-valley and you'll notice that good growth feeds upon itself, bad growth kills a place, and no growth, well you just stay stuck where you are. While a romantic thought, not very practical for a business.


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